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by Nitsuj (Hermit)
on Aug 02, 2000 at 00:32 UTC ( #25581=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Should Perl Gurus (Wall,Schwartz,Christiansen et al) receive mega XP based on who they are?

An idea, would be to give experience based on certain things. One such thing would be to have a book published by O'Reilly creditting you. You could get like, 1/2pt per page. Another would be to have a perl distribution with your work in it. Getting points based on what you contributed (but by module, not by kblock, as we all know that that is an ineffective metric).

All in all, however, I think that participation in the SITE must be MANDATORY to have high experience. It would not be fair to give Larry Wall credit for being very devoted to a site that he never visits (not that I am saying that he never visits here, what I am saying, is that if he weren't to, he wouldn't deserve to be creditted with contributing majorly to this site, no matter what debt of gratitude we owe him for coming up with the language.)

Everything said, give credit where credit is due, but don't just make people saints because they are saints emeritus. Perhaps a Saint Emeritus status would be in order. Universities give degrees to emeriti who have not completed programs because they feel that they have contributed significantly to a field of study. Perhaps a Saint Emeritus status is in order. Emeritus does not mean that one actually participated in the afformentioned program though, and is not the same as regular sainthood, but conveys a level of respect for the individual, perhaps even greater than have actually earning it through regular channels.

Just Another Perl Hacker

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RE: How about
by davorg (Chancellor) on Aug 02, 2000 at 00:41 UTC

    The trouble with this is that in many cases, people who are very important to Perl and who have great knowledge to share have been too busy working on Perl to write a book.

    I'm thinking here in particular of Chip Salzenberg who I've noticed round here posting a number of very useful nodes. His knowledge of how Perl will actually run a particular piece of code is probably better than Randal's. Should we give him mega-XP?

    Another great example is Mark-Jason Dominus. A great "explainer of Perl" both in training courses and in articles (if you don't know the name, see for proof). He's been too busy for the last couple of years to write a book, but he'd be a great asset to perlmonks. Would we give him mega-XP?


    European Perl Conference - Sept 22/24 2000, ICA, London
      While I agree that ability is important, contribution to the site is what, in my opinion, should determine XP on this site. Just like on everything. Webster might have a great thesaurus and dictionary, but he didn't write much on everything. Perhaps the reputation of one's posts should become more important. This way, people who write really good nodes will rise to the top, whereas people who just write a lot of nodes will not rise so quickly. If necessary, the amount of experience to achieve certain levels would be modified accordingly.

      Also, the sections. I like to comment on a poll, but my comments on a poll aren't as important as a code contribution is. Perhaps WHERE you post should also make a difference.

      Just a few more thoughts :-)

      Just Another Perl Hacker

        I agree with you completely, It should be your contributions to the site that determine your XP. But that's obivously not what happened with merlyn. Someone saw that he was around and decided that they'd give him another 1_000_000 XP just because of who he is. He has made valuable contributions to the site (even without the extra XP he'd be in the top 10 monks), but I'm not sure what good the 'free' XP do.

        I guess my question is really: where do you draw the line? Is there a list of Perl Names who would be given free XP if they started frequenting the site?


        European Perl Conference - Sept 22/24 2000, ICA, London
        I agree with all you said except your statement where you said that comments on polls were not as important as a code contribution. Generally, yes, you are right, comments to polls are often silly little things, amusements. But I would hardly say that the recent posts on this subject fall into that. Comments on polls can be just important as any other on this site.

        Roy Alan

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