Speaking of Squeak, who can answer a question for me: Alan Kay is on the Squeak team. I know there was an Alan Kay involved with the development of Smalltalk at Xerox PARC. But there was also a Kay involved with developing an early PC named the Kaypro, which happens to be the first computer I owned. I've seen people attribute both to Alan Kay; others say there were two different Alan Kay's; and still others say that Kaypro was founded by Andrew -- not Alan -- Kay. I know I'm now OT but I've always wondered about that. I still have that CP/M based Kaypro. 1 experience point promised to anyone who knows the real story!