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Re: Automatic Re-ing with numbers

by Abigail-II (Bishop)
on Aug 12, 2003 at 06:45 UTC ( #283097=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^6: Automatic Re-ing with numbers
in thread Automatic Re-ing with numbers

What I'm alluding to, though, is that it would at least doable for PerlMonks to keep a full history, whereas for Usenet, it's not even technically possible.
It's most certainly technical possible to keep a full Usenet history. There are many people around that never expire certain groups, and thus keeping a full history. And then there's google.

Abigail

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Re^8: Automatic Re-ing with numbers
by Aristotle (Chancellor) on Aug 12, 2003 at 08:03 UTC

    It's up to each server which groups to carry and from whom. You can't even define "all of Usenet" in any useful terms.

    There's no guarantuee that no messages will be lost. With some newsgroups I used to subscribe I had the problem that none of the servers that carried them were very well connected.

    And people can add headers to a message to request that archivers not store it.

    There's a lot of hurdles that PerlMonks doesn't have per definitionem.

    Makeshifts last the longest.

      But anyone can create their own server and decide for themselves which groups to carry and how long messages should be kept. You are not dependent on "some server".
      There's no guarantuee that no messages will be lost.
      And here we have Nodereaper that may delete posts.

      And people can add headers to a message to request that archivers not store it.

      And on Perlmonks people can edit their messages and delete the content.

      Abigail

        Even running your own server doesn't guarantuee 100% reliability on any but the messages fed directly to your server. Messages sent to a newsgroup you carry but via a another news server may never reach you.

        NodeReaper posts are actually still there - you can Visit Reaped Nodes and read the previous content. It is removed from immediate view, but not lost.

        The last one is a good point - one might argue that PerlMonks could keep a full history of edits, but then one might also argue that archivers can ignore the headers requesting the message to be discarded.

        Makeshifts last the longest.

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