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Re: Re: Re: Number 1 mistake to not avoid during an interview

by chaoticset (Chaplain)
on Sep 18, 2003 at 14:40 UTC ( #292404=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


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Jesus H. Christ, man! "Only drones look for other drones!" Nobody who is a drone thinks they're a drone.

Some people have decided they are defined by things other than their job, and after that decision it's very easy to decide that your choice of job doesn't really matter. It's very easy to look for stability and a so-so work environment and call it good enough.

The pinnacle of work is a job you love that pays well. On either side of that pinnacle are jobs you love that pay poorly (or just barely enough), or jobs you dislike but are steady, stable, well-paying jobs. Further down that mountain are jobs that suck on all counts but are the only jobs in the area, etc. Some of us don't have the luxury of working somewhere that's worth working at and pleasant, and some people literally do not care.

Nobody, but nobody, calls themself a 'drone', unless it's some sort of derogatory internal dialogue. People think of themselves as dedicated parents working a job that sucks for the good of their children, or they need work to do to subdue the buzzing in their head, or whatever -- but they don't seek droneage out.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Number 1 mistake to not avoid during an interview
by svsingh (Priest) on Sep 18, 2003 at 15:08 UTC
    Okay, maybe that was a bit flippant, but I never said "only people who see themselves as drones..." There are companies/groups/individuals who put a higher value on stabilty and conformity when hiring new people, just like there are c/g/i who seek out the opposite.

    What I was trying to get across was that if you're enthusiastic about your work, then look for a group that wants enthusiastic people. On the other side (unsaid in my original post), if you want stability because work isn't your priority, then look for a group that supports that.

    Sorry, I wasn't trying to be judgemental. Drones was a poor choice of words. It just seemed a lot simpler to close with that sentence than this whole explanation. :)



      Sorry, I wasn't trying to be judgemental.
      I didn't think you were. I'm just trying to express this frustration.

      I see myself as a drone, but an unwilling one -- I'm doing a job I'm not necessarily enthusiastic about, nor do I think it's necessarily worth doing. Mostly, my job is one with excellent working conditions and not a lot of hassle.

      The job market in my locale is utterly wretched, as far as I can tell, and though I've been trying to find some remote work, it's a hard thing to do. That, added to my general lack of skills getting a job has landed me where I am. I'm not unhappy with it; I just think I could be programming, which would seem more important and more worthwhile.

      So I feel a little defensive about the word 'drone'. My interview was a rather conservative one, and it got me in, and I feel a little defensive about that, too -- because I wasn't myself. I needed work. Sometimes the lowest common denominator is the best you can get.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Number 1 mistake to not avoid during an interview
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 19, 2003 at 07:58 UTC
      "Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you."

      Who can name that quote? :-)

      Wally Hartshorn

      (Plug: Visit JavaJunkies, PerlMonks for Java)

        Who can name that quote?

        I'd wager Sid Meier could ;)

        Alpha Centauri
      I am a drone.

      I may be a drone, but at least I am not a number.

      On second thought, i is a number, and "I" can be used as a number, so hmm .

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