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Re: Re: Re: J2EE is too complicated - why not Perl?

by jepri (Parson)
on Dec 07, 2003 at 15:17 UTC ( #312922=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Re: J2EE is too complicated - why not Perl?
in thread J2EE is too complicated - why not Perl?

As a sysadmin for a government department for the last two years, I have come to the conclusion that 'Enterprise Software' actually means 'multiply the price by ten and remove the installation manual'.

I realise this response will be taken as Gen-X-hip-cynicism by some readers, but after looking at the contracts some departments have signed and the monies paid for Enterprise Software, I hope that there were kickbacks involved because I don't want to believe that anyone could be that foolish.

My personal 'enterprise level requirements' are software that is easy to install and doesn't crash more that once per month.

Actually, thinking about it a little more, enterprise level software might be 'software that you can install in under two weeks, and that takes longer to crash than the minister takes to get bored with it'.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: J2EE is too complicated - why not Perl?
by exussum0 (Vicar) on May 25, 2004 at 15:46 UTC
    Enterprise software for me tends to mean, very flexible and very scalable. Let's take perl and php sans mod_perl and the php cachers out there. As a "web language", it's not enterprise level. But even then, perl has its advantages in how flexible it is. Flexibility gives it more power, 'casue in today's day and age, less flexible software, like dbase, isn't helpful. We need replication. Relational capabilities. Live backups.

    Peoplesoft is big because of this. They have a mamoth piece of software that's flexible to a point, and they have consulting services to further that felixibility. Apparently, it's also quite scalable too.

    Have you looked into vendor assistance in what contracts you are about to forge? Like a 1 month, reduced cost setup thing?

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      Have you looked into vendor assistance in what contracts you are about to forge? Like a 1 month, reduced cost setup thing?

      I believe that our vendor contract reads something like "we agree to place our nuts in a vice and allow the vendor to tighten it as much as the vendor cares to"

      When they are the only company in the field, they screw us for everything, and we smile, and say "thank you sir, may I have another?"

      And secretly we trial GPL software to see if it has caught up yet. Nearly there, but not quite...

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