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Re: Re: Online Perl books

by Wassercrats
on Dec 08, 2003 at 21:10 UTC ( #313241=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Online Perl books
in thread Online Perl books

I'm still not certain they were copyright violations. A Google search for a sentence in one of those books brings up several websites that have the full text online, for no charge. I'm sure O'Reilly knows how to search Google. Searching for phrases in a website is a common way to find people who've stolen your pages, and as I said, one of those pages has a high Google page rank and has been around for a while. I wouldn't be surprised if O'Reilly knows that they can't do anything about it--not even get Google to delete it from their index--because the site is perfectly legal. Maybe the books aren't copyrighted world-wide, or else copyright law could be different elsewhere.

I removed the links because I believe that despite the law, those books shouldn't be published unless O'Reilly gives permission, and it is possible that a law is being violated. I posted those links in the first place because it was an easy way to get various opinions on what I wanted to know, and I knew I could minimize the damage by quickly deleting them, which probably should have been done by the editors here even before I did it if it was clearly copyright infringement.

And I don't care about votes. I'm considering adding a signature that asks for downvotes.


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•Re: Re: Re: Online Perl books
by merlyn (Sage) on Dec 08, 2003 at 22:00 UTC
    I'm still not certain they were copyright violations.
    Uh, how much more proof do you need than me saying "yes, they are copyright violations". It's my material being pirated. It's being done without my permission, or the permission of O'Reilly (which I would have had to give them to have this be possible).

    And yes, O'Reilly googles from time to time, and then begins the legal process, but it can take weeks or months to remove such sites.

    So, in case it's still not clear: YES, "LEARNING PERL" IS COPYRIGHTED. "LEARNING PERL OBJECTS REFERENCES AND MODULES" IS COPYRIGHTED. "LEARNING PERL FOR WIN32" IS COPYRIGHTED. WEB SITES THAT MAKE THESE BOOKS AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITHOUT RESTRICTION ARE IN VIOLATION OF THAT WORLDWIDE COPYRIGHT.

    Understood?

    -- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker
    Be sure to read my standard disclaimer if this is a reply.

      Uh, how much more proof do you need than me saying "yes, they are copyright violations".
      Just because you say it is does not make it so. How can "copyright violations" exist in countries which don't have "copyright protection"?

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