Actually, it's a dim view of humans, not managers. I don't believe I singled out managers at all in my post. I find that most people don't care to learn anything unless you put a gun to their head. Especially learning how to talk or understand one another. (I'm no expert at this art.)

I find that most managers shouldn't be....
Tech people sometimes strike me the same way, but at least their job isn't to manage other people's jobs.

Of late, the problem I've seen is not the tech's lack of awareness of things outside the tech world or the overall picture. Actually, they always strike me as quite powerless and frustrated. It's that the managers over them don't care about any problem but their own deadline/goal/objective/whatever (strikes me as a big corporation problem). What good is a deadline if it guarantees failure?

Granted, I currently speak as an observer, but I have had my share of good and mostly bad managers. I haven't had much in the way of managers or deadlines over the last 2 years, yet my clients have enjoyed the benefits of my work.

smiles

PS. A warning to Mr. Muskrat: Be careful what you do and don't put into writing and make sure and never document promises you cannot fulfill. ie. don't be a day late on something you promised in writing for tomorrow.

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