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Serious & personal meditation

by perlinux (Deacon)
on Apr 29, 2004 at 12:11 UTC ( #349099=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Blessed monks,

After this, I've found the courage...
I want to explain you my little/great problem!
I have found PM on January, and after that diabolic month my life is changed!
I'm neglecting my work to read and reply at PM nodes, and I'm always waiting for other Monks votes, reloading and reloading your site to see my XP Nodelet...I have to use other programming languages, but Perl ((D)?Evil!?) is always on my mind.
I'm really owned from PM&Perl!
I hate this?!
Is your situation, PM??
I'm searching for your blessing, and I want to know there's any person (Vroom? any Saint??) with the great power of an exorcist...
There's a little isolation room in your monastery for me?? To expiate my faults...A PM prayer to say? Create one, please!
A sinner...

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Re: Serious & personal meditation
by EdwardG (Vicar) on Apr 29, 2004 at 12:16 UTC
    ...reloading and reloading your site to see my XP Nodelet

    I will offer a few chants on your behalf, perlinux, in the meantime, this site might interest you.

Re: Serious & personal meditation
by bronto (Priest) on Apr 29, 2004 at 14:10 UTC

    Well, perlinux, there will be many things for which you'll love perlmonks, and at least as many for which you'll hate it. I wrote a few notes a while ago, which you might like to read along with their comments


    The very nature of Perl to be like natural language--inconsistant and full of dwim and special cases--makes it impossible to know it all without simply memorizing the documentation (which is not complete or totally correct anyway).
    --John M. Dlugosz
         .....You see your XP go up and up, and you see yourself becoming a monk, friar, abbot..., and you'll be proud of it.

      This is my problem! :-)
      I think PM is a great idea! Too great..
      Thanks for your link

      Saluti dall'Urbe alla Sardegna, terra madre!!!
Re: Serious & personal meditation
by pfaut (Priest) on Apr 29, 2004 at 22:02 UTC

    I guess I was one of the lucky (?) ones. I found PerlMonks while I was unemployed and had plenty of time to devote to it. By the time I found a job, the initial infatuation was wearing off. I wish I could spend more time here but the fact that I can't doesn't consume me.

    I suppose one of these days, someone will have to start a PerlMonks Anonymous site. "Hi, I'm Tom. I'm a PerlMonk. I haven't logged in to check my XP in 12 days hours minutes."

    90% of every Perl application is already written.
Re: Serious & personal meditation
by Anomynous Monk (Scribe) on Apr 29, 2004 at 14:49 UTC
    You probably don't want to know that you can check your XP by phone when away from your computer...
Re: Serious & personal meditation
by Chady (Priest) on Apr 29, 2004 at 17:59 UTC

    I just want to point out that you might want to make sure that you don't spend your time watching your XP and missing out on all the perl learning that you can do.

    XP by itself means nothing, I look at the other users nodelet, and I see my name above a lot of the names that know a hell lot more than I do about perl, and that alone acts as a reminder that XP is not equal to experience; maybe experience in posting and voting, but not in perl.

    He who asks will be a fool for five minutes, but he who doesn't ask will remain a fool for life.

    Chady |
Re: Serious & personal meditation
by TomDLux (Vicar) on Apr 30, 2004 at 15:24 UTC

    Whenever I reach a new level, I check and discover that merlyn is further ahead of me than ever before. The good thing about achieving sainthood is that vroom is only 1003064 credits ahead of me. It's important to have attainable goals!

    XP is fun, but the things that excite me are learning new things frrom others, and sharing my own interests and attitudes. My hot spot at the moment is geting into Log4Perl .... it combines the functionality of debugger print statements, emailing or messaging to pagers for a crisis, and logging usage, status and security info.


      My hot spot at the moment is geting into Log4Perl .... it combines the functionality of debugger print statements, emailing or messaging to pagers for a crisis, and logging usage, status and security info.
      How do you use Log4perl for security info? Do you make a category for it? Add a priority level?


        I'm not actually using it now, I'm considering a small private project to explore Log4Perl.

        As far as work situations are concerned, what I meant by security info isn't very different from Apache logging, it's just a matter of context.

        In particular, at the bank where I worked last winter (hi Vlad), they had a special account WXYZ which ran certain programs, and people would log on as WXYZ and run scripts. Well, that's not very different from logging on as root. So we came up with an suid script named wxyz which would let outside people run programs uzing the WXYZ account ... a first step in migrating away from SU anonymity.

        Previously, you knew that fifty people had logged on as WXYZ and one of them had run 'rm -rf *'. With the new system, you knew who had done what, because the system logged the requests.


Re: Serious & personal meditation
by wolfi (Scribe) on Apr 30, 2004 at 02:07 UTC

    when i pop on, i still do check my XP. I'm only interested in it going down. (In case i say something that draws flames - i want to know this, so i can correct it.)

    i've found perl and PM addicting - but after my 1st month (this being #2) - the XP effect appears to have worn off. I guess, it's a question of whether the goal is to become a Saint or to grow into an effective perl programmer -> they could be the same thing, but not necessarily.

    if, however, you're coming here to learn things - i wouldn't worry about how much time you spend here. There's a zillion posts and a wealth of useful info. It's a better expenditure of time than say... reading CNN articles about who's doing whom in hollywood or something.

    but that's just my take. :-)

Re: Serious & personal meditation
by artist (Parson) on Apr 29, 2004 at 22:40 UTC
    I have found PM on Januarary
    I'm really owned from PM&Perl!

    Tells us who owned you before PM & Perl and you will get excellent answers here..

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[stonecolddevin]: o/ planetscape
[Sinistral]: I think that just the sight of his username now causes a downvote storm. I agree, and the gratuitous use of formatting does make reading hard. I've given him +1 on things where there seemed to be actual good advice, but I think the big
[Sinistral]: nail in coffin was the rant against a Schwarzian Transform
[stonecolddevin]: at best, from what i've seen, his knowledge is accurate up to maybe 2002. the sheer volume of words is mostly worthy of a downvote in most cases though i think
[erix]: ITYM Schwartzian Transform :P
[erix]: hey planetscape :)
[planetscape]: howdy stonecolddevin, erix
[Sinistral]: eric Aye. I thought I typed that wrong. All hail Randall! I listen to him on FLOSS Weekly
[Discipulus]: i think his vacuus, trombon like, absence of meaning, joined with a ostentatious style, after many years irritates the most
[erix]: easy to get wrong -- I guess that was sund's point, too :P

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