Re^4: Perl 6 ... dead?

[chromatic]

in reply to Re^3: Perl 6 ... dead?
in thread Perl 6 ... dead?

I think you're inadvertently mischaracterizing Patrick's comments.

Now, contrast that with parrot...

Parrot's a project several years further along, used in production, with tens of contributors, and a lead designer who prefers to design the skeleton of a system before announcing it and showing off code. Aside from the first three, they're not too different (and the first three are a function of time).

There's really no point in distributing a couple of empty header and source files right now. How do you solicit patches from volunteers if there's nothing to patch? Also, the new lists aren't ready yet, so there's a good reason not to announce things on the wrong list.

That's not to say that there's no discussion; see p6i from just today with comments on regex semantics from Larry, Dan, and Patrick.

[jryan]

Yeah, but the point with parrot is that the lead designer has kept the design *open* since the beginning. Sure, there isn't any code yet for the real compiler or real grammar engine. However, the design is still happening behind doors. There have been something like a half-dozen prototype grammar engines over the last four-or-so years done by many different people, and that's a lot of input that's being shut out.

[Wassercrats]

I bet there's been lots of errors, lots of controversial ideas discussed, and the desire to appear to have direction, not waste time with input from others, and leave it to the experts. It goes against how people think of the Perl and open source community, but I think that's the best way to develop Perl 6 for now.

[hostyle]

Wassercrats: I bet there's been lots of errors, lots of controversial ideas discussed, and the desire to appear to have direction ...

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