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Re^9: Wassercrats: Why are you still here?

by Wassercrats
on Oct 01, 2004 at 06:08 UTC ( #395560=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^8: Wassercrats: Why are you still here?
in thread Abigail-II and some thoughts

LinuxQuestions would have done something far worse to the person I called an idiot than call him an idiot. I already said that my words are nothing compared to what the person I called an idiot should get. He should get his post deleted (not reaped) at the very least. That would have happened on LinuxQuestions, and I'd therefore not need to call anyone an idiot.

Just for you, I'll be more specific in my recommendations. If someone calls someone an idiot or asshole, without giving a good explanation (I don't care who you have judge that, but if the wrong decision is made, I'll bitch about that too), that post should be deleted. There was no reason given by the person in this thread.

Petruchio said I would be censored from CB if I continue to defend myself. I just posted one long and two short CB messages to defend myself after a long series of unanswered attacks on me. People call me an idiot and they get upvoted, but I defend myself without any insults and I get threatened like that? It was the same BS as usual toward me in that CB conversation, and anything less than someone being on my side I'd hold against someone, and I'd take a threat of censorship as an insult.

I said FU to Petruchio after I'd announced that I'll be leaving Perlmonks. Give me whatever punishment you want. It doesn't matter.

In many cases, the majority of Perlmonks who've voted on a node of mine downvoted it when they knew very well that there was nothing wrong with it. It was obvious, and it was an insult for them to downvote me. I don't need to hear the words to be insulted. I've pointed out such posts like that in the past, and insulting those people as a group isn't the same as an insult toward me without any reasoning.

Almost nobody has complained about people insulting me or about the upvotes they get, and this has gone on long before the FU or any other name calling by me. Also, almost nobody complained about perfectly good posts of mine being downvoted. Even when I've acted nicely towards people who've insulted me and totally debunked their argument.

Tim Vroom is responcible for all of this. He allows the idiotic votes and insulting posts and says nothing. By calling Tim Vroom an asshole, I'm giving him much less severe treatment than he deserves, just like when I called that person from this thread an asshole. Again, that's what I was called first, and it's a totally different thing when the person clearly deserves it and you give a reason.


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Re^10: Wassercrats: Why are you still here?
by Anonymous Monk on Oct 01, 2004 at 10:53 UTC
    Almost nobody has complained about people insulting me or about the upvotes they get, and this has gone on long before the FU or any other name calling by me. Also, almost nobody complained about perfectly good posts of mine being downvoted.
    Why should they?
    • You're a hypocritical jerk
    • Your tantrum has outlasted any carried on by previous trolls
    • You keep perpetuating your flamefest ad-nauseum
    • After cursing the monastery and shitting on our doorsteps, you start dictating how people should behave?
    In case you haven't gotten the message, people are sick and tired of hearing spew flame. Regardless of what you say from this point forward, every one of your nodes will undoubtedly be downlvoted because no one wants to hear anything you have to say. If the monastery was a physical place you would have been kicked out a long time ago.
Re^10: Wassercrats: Why are you still here?
by Anonymous Monk on Oct 01, 2004 at 18:40 UTC
    Re: LinuxQuestions
    So you're blaming your bad behavior on everyone else? Sorry I don't buy that; no one forced you to start throwing insults.

    They aren't getting as much flack as you because they are far better behaved than you. Their insults are few and far between, whereas your insults are pervasive and continuous. Not only that, but you also insult the entire community when one member of the community insults you.


    Re: Petruchio
    You didn't get reaped for defending yourself, you got reaped because you started insulting people. If you consider what he said as an insult, you've got some serious comprehension issues you should be dealing with.


    Re Downvoting:
    Again, you have some serious comprehension issues if you're equating down voting to insulting. Down voting someone does not equate to calling them an asshole. If you're considering that justification for your actions, its just going to get worse from here on in; the more you insult people, the more down votes you're going to get.


    Re Tim Vroom:
    He doesn't say anything because it is a community run site. He isn't your nanny, and its not his responsibility to hold your hand.


    Now, lets take a closer look at your logic here. From your Petruchio response, you feel justified in insulting people when the say things to you. From your Tim Vroom response, you feel justified in insulting people when the don't say things to you. QED you feel justified insulting people all the time. Does that give you any insight on why people are down voting you?
      The majority of the community insults me and is simply foolish when they upvote an insult toward me such as those regarding the safety of my code, or those that clearly are just stupid, and downvote perfectly good replies of mine, and this has happened often before my insults TOWARD THOSE PEOPLE WHO DESERVE THEM! I won't bother with examples. I've given enough over the last several months or years.

      My insults had been nonexistent, especially when it comes to using words like idiot and not explaining myself.

      When did I get reaped for insulting someone?

      Even the death penalty is good sometimes. Insults are good too. The fact remains that I would never have insulted anyone if I hadn't been insulted for years without deserving it and with no penalty for those insulting me.

      No, my own insults don't give me an insight into why people are downvoting me. TELL ME WHY, AND DON'T USE AN AFTER-THE-FACT INSULT OF MINE, THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO SOMEONE'S GROSS MISTREATMENT OF ME, AS AN EXCUSE! A good post should not be downvoted based on someone's past anyway, but my past is squeaky clean compared to many of the replies I get.

      And stop hiding behind Anonymous Monk. I already know you have problems because of your position on this, but your hiding shows you're even a bigger loser.

      You, Tim Vroom, and the majority of monks continue to suck, and I'm currently deciding what language to switch to so I could start supporting a different community. I don't even want to accidentally help a Perlmonk, and I certainly won't be buying an O'Reilly book.

      I just learned that one of O'Reilly's affiliates has a sponsor that's engaged in illegal activities, and several federal agencies have been informed. O'Reilly could have easily discovered this. O'Reilly has gone beyond hurting U.S. national security. They now support evil dictators and contribute to heart disease and lung cancer, and so does anyone who buys an O'Reilly product.

        I downvoted this node because you threw in what I consider to be a baseless accusation against my employer in an exaggerated guilt-by-association fashion that's bereft of facts. I can't remember the last node I downvoted, for what that's worth.

        I think you have a vendetta against O'Reilly based on very shaky grounds; based on my research of copyright, the law, as practiced allows up to a year's grace period of the date of copyright registry so as to allow the copyright holder the full protection of the law!

        Of course, since the company believes so strongly in Founder's Copyright that all new contracts include a page explaining our views on limited copyright terms and asking the author to agree to release the copyright after 7 or 14 years and people are slowly contacting authors of existing books to sign the same release, it doesn't really matter.

        Granted, I have an interest in the success of my employer, but it also gives me access to facts I think you've ignored.

        You're welcome to disagree with me, but you wanted to know why people downvote you. That's my reason. I hope it helps.

        No, my own insults don't give me an insight into why people are downvoting me. TELL ME WHY, AND DON'T USE AN AFTER-THE-FACT INSULT OF MINE, THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO SOMEONE'S GROSS MISTREATMENT OF ME, AS AN EXCUSE!
        I downvote EVERYONE who calls others idiot, asshole, suck regardless of WHY/WHEN.
        You, Tim Vroom, and the majority of monks continue to suck
        I never seen Tim Vroom or the majority of monks insult you. You continue to insult everyone in every one of your responses which is why you keep getting downvoted.

        You have devoted far too much time and into "defending" yourself around here. You deserve a lengthy time out. Go talk to a therapist, priest, a friend, someone in the real world and forget about this place and relax, you'll live longer.

        The majority of the community insults

        Iím not sure why you keep on with this ďmajority of the communityĒ, as I pointed out repeatedly, the majority of the community hasnít ever even mentioned you.
        Let say every one of your posts was responded to by 10 insults, each of which was initiated by a different person. As of now, you have 468 posts, so that would be 4680 insults from 4680 people. There are currently 30550 registered monks. That would make 15% of community insulting you. 15% is not a majority, and the actual percentage is going to be FAR less, since you donít get anywhere near 10 responses per post, the responses you do get are usually from the same people, and not all of the responses are insults.


        TELL ME WHY, AND DON'T USE AN AFTER-THE-FACT INSULT OF MINE, THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO SOMEONE'S GROSS MISTREATMENT OF ME, AS AN EXCUSE!

        Iím not going to analyze all 468 of your posts for you. Iím just explaining my observations and trying to provide you with insight as to why you reputation is where it is. If you donít want to listen to my advice, that is your choice, but have you noticed your reputation been getting any better since you have started this tirade? Your current behavior isnít helping you any.


        And stop hiding behind Anonymous Monk. I already know you have problems because of your position on this, but your hiding shows you're even a bigger loser.

        This is why I donít have a login. And you have just insulted me directly when I have gone out of my why to politely explain things as I see them. If you want me to stop respond to your posts, just say so Iíll stop responding.

Re^10: Wassercrats: Why are you still here?
by logan (Curate) on Oct 02, 2004 at 00:08 UTC
    Tim Vroom is responcible for all of this. He allows the idiotic votes and insulting posts and says nothing.

    If Vroom is responsible for maintaining order and enforcing civility in the Monastary, and being as Perlmonks is his site, that means that he has complete freedom to do with it as he sees fit.

    If Vroom asks you to leave, will you?

    -Logan
    "What do I want? I'm an American. I want more."

      You're damn right I'm leaving. I don't need to be asked.

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