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Re: Perl 6 was released years ago

by zentara (Archbishop)
on Nov 01, 2004 at 12:59 UTC ( #404291=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Perl 6 was released years ago

I'm sure if you are reading this, you know who "Godzilla" is (was :-) ) on comp.lang.perl.misc. She is constantly ( sometimes rightly) bashing perl5 code, saying perl4 style code was faster and "good enough" for some purpose.

So I prognosticate many Godzilla-style dinosaurs, some who are very respected Perl programmers, who will just keep on claiming that Perl6 is a waste, and Perl5 will do it just fine.

I also see this common scenario: A question will be asked, the standard Perl5 answers will appear, but someone will point out how much easier it can be done in Perl6, OR if it was done in Perl6, it will avoid some sort of hidden problem. Then eventually, more and more people will start using it.

I also forecast that a bunch of people will want to use Perl6 to make binaries for distribution, to hide their source code, and all the pro-con discussion which goes with that. (It seems that most new programmers want to hide their code :-) ).

Finally, I see a flood of new Perl6 books, and Perl5 books going for $1 or $2 on ebay. People will be discussing whether it is worthwhile to read the old books.

I base my forecasts on my observations of human behavior, not on the merits of Perl5 or Perl6.


I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. flash japh


Comment on Re: Perl 6 was released years ago
Re^2: Perl 6 was released years ago
by Elian (Parson) on Nov 01, 2004 at 17:23 UTC
    I'm sure if you are reading this, you know who "Godzilla" is (was :-) ) on comp.lang.perl.misc.
    Which is funny on several levels, since it's almost undoubtedly true -- you do know Godzilla. You just don't realize you know...
      I'm perplexed, like the joke is on me and I don't know it. :-) Are you, or some other monk here, Godzilla?

      I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. flash japh
        What, you think someone managed to embody a whole host of the worst personality traits of the common clpm posters, echo only the worst 'expert' advice, and mock the pompous by accident?

        Godzilla's not me. Beyond that, I ain't sayin'.

Re^2: Perl 6 was released years ago
by hardburn (Abbot) on Nov 01, 2004 at 19:06 UTC

    I also forecast that a bunch of people will want to use Perl6 to make binaries for distribution, to hide their source code, and all the pro-con discussion which goes with that.

    IIRC, the current plan for the bytecode compiler would include a section that had the orginal source verbatim. So the "hide our crappy code!" people aren't getting a bone thrown to them. Which is fine by me.

    "There is no shame in being self-taught, only in not trying to learn in the first place." -- Atrus, Myst: The Book of D'ni.

      I would assume the standard answer would then be, remove the verbatim copy and run without it.

        Perhaps. It may well be (and I'm probably ranting about issues I don't know enough about) that the orginal source section is there as intrinsic functionality for running the bytecode. In any case, I don't think the Parrot/Ponie people should go out of their way to appease the "hide our code" group.

        "There is no shame in being self-taught, only in not trying to learn in the first place." -- Atrus, Myst: The Book of D'ni.

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