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Re: For whom would you vote, if you were an American?

by TedPride (Priest)
on Nov 04, 2004 at 10:21 UTC ( #405145=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to For whom would you vote, if you were an American?

hardburn says:
"Remember, a vote for Other is a vote for Bush."

Nader says that he gets just as many votes from Republicans as from Democrats.

Anonymous Monk says:
"I can't believe so many people are voting for Bush, he's a blatant racist, but then again I'm a minority :("

Hmm. I haven't really noticed any racism from either candidate. Can you give specifics?

strat says:
"In addition to that, I've just seen the film "Farenheid 9/11" from Michael Moore some days ago, and if only 5 percent of the contents are true, I really wonder why Bush and some of his friends are still in political positions... "

Well, the same could be said of "Unfit for Command", except "Unfit for Command" probably has significantly more truth in it.

Discipulus says:
"the problem is not the man. The real problem is the international behaviour of that country. you know something about Monroe's doctrine ? wants amerika renounce the role of world's policeman ? wants rethink about an industrial developement that ignore the human and wilderness hope of life ? want they stop to help israel to make illigal war against palestinian people ? want someone smash the weapon's trade ? lor*"

There's always going to be either a world policeman or a world gangster. I'd rather have the policeman, though I don't necessarily agree with every war / skirmish we've fought.

As for industrial development, ecological awareness is directly proportional to per-capita income. If we didn't have the industrial development, some other, much less careful country would be running things here.

And one could debate that since the Palestinians are illegally blowing themselves up in the middle of bunches of Israeli civilians, and since pretty much the entire Middle East has tried to destroy Israel several times, Israel is justified in taking action to protect itself. The US supports Israel simply because Israel is a buffer zone - without it, the suicide bombers would be busy visiting us next.


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Re^2: For whom would you vote, if you were an American?
by hardburn (Abbot) on Nov 04, 2004 at 17:50 UTC

    Nader says that he gets just as many votes from Republicans as from Democrats.

    Nader is full of crap. Exit polls showed pretty close to zero republicans voting for him. Further, as a third-party candidate, he is no more satisfying than the candidates from the two big parties.

    In any case, my statement was meant as a joke (though I probably didn't make it obvious enough, which is my fault). As I said before, looking at the poll data, Nader and all other third-party candidates combined did not play a significant role, even in swing states.

    "There is no shame in being self-taught, only in not trying to learn in the first place." -- Atrus, Myst: The Book of D'ni.

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Re^2: For whom would you vote, if you were an American?
by shmem (Canon) on Feb 11, 2007 at 13:59 UTC
    There's always going to be either a world policeman or a world gangster. I'd rather have the policeman, though I don't necessarily agree with every war / skirmish we've fought.

    I'd be rather with the gangster if the policeman calling the gangster a gangster is a gangster.

    As for industrial development, ecological awareness is directly proportional to per-capita income. If we didn't have the industrial development, some other, much less careful country would be running things here.

    Oh, really? Ask your fellow indigenous american compatriotes, ask indigenous people in south america, ask any farmer that refuses to grow his crop with oil (traktors, fertilizers, you get the picture) and with his own seed (not Monsanto's). What per-capita income do those have, that really live within their environment in a non-exploiting way? Which "other, much less careful country" do you have in mind which is e.g. not firing depleted uranium shells?

    And one could debate that since the Palestinians are illegally blowing themselves up in the middle of bunches of Israeli civilians, and since pretty much the entire Middle East has tried to destroy Israel several times, Israel is justified in taking action to protect itself. The US supports Israel simply because Israel is a buffer zone - without it, the suicide bombers would be busy visiting us next.

    Come on - suicide bombers visiting you next? That's what those preaching the "war on terr'ism" are trying to inculcate everybody with, it's plain paranoid and without any evidence. The USA's point on this being "bomb there, we're just supporting them"? Get real. The USA is supporting Israel simply because of Israel's strong lobby within your political institutions. Look up The American Enterprise Institute and it's fellows, look up the AIPAC, look up e.g. Doug Feith - learn about their agenda...

    --shmem

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