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Do we ever want to freeze threads?

by talexb (Canon)
on Dec 30, 2004 at 15:49 UTC ( #418281=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

I'm fresh from a visit to demerphq's Recently Active Threads page, where I saw a recent reply to a very old thread. I know that SlashDot 'freezes' stories after a while to prevent further replies being added to an old story (it probably also allows them to do some database fiddling so that archived stories are stored differently, but that's a topic of discussion for another beer), and was wondering if it would be useful to add the same feature to Perl Monks.

Having done absolutely no research on this topic, I don't know if it's been discussed before or not.

Alex / talexb / Toronto

"Groklaw is the open-source mentality applied to legal research" ~ Linus Torvalds

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Re: Do we ever want to freeze threads?
by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Dec 30, 2004 at 15:51 UTC
    I don't want to freeze threads. I have found it very useful to go back to very old threads and provide new responses. New responses to old threads of mine have also been really nice.

    Now, I can see wanting to freeze nodes after, say, a month. That should provide similar twiddling capabilities, right?

    Being right, does not endow the right to be rude; politeness costs nothing.
    Being unknowing, is not the same as being stupid.
    Expressing a contrary opinion, whether to the individual or the group, is more often a sign of deeper thought than of cantankerous belligerence.
    Do not mistake your goals as the only goals; your opinion as the only opinion; your confidence as correctness. Saying you know better is not the same as explaining you know better.

      It's a really tough call .. Originally my thought was to prevent people from replying to a node that was a year or more old. But in addition I suppose it could also be used to prevent someone from modifying (or deleting, as per mt2k) an old node. Then again, updating is OK -- as in, adding something to the bottom.

      It's really not black and white, is it.

      Alex / talexb / Toronto

      "Groklaw is the open-source mentality applied to legal research" ~ Linus Torvalds

        What about the Thread Which Shall Not Be Named?

        "There is no shame in being self-taught, only in not trying to learn in the first place." -- Atrus, Myst: The Book of D'ni.

Re: Do we ever want to freeze threads?
by TrekNoid (Pilgrim) on Dec 30, 2004 at 18:42 UTC
    If threads are frozen after a year, at least two threads I'm aware of would die an unfair death, in my opinion:

    Name Space and Paco's Thread

    TrekNoid

      True. Perhaps an automatic consideration to freeze after a given period of time?

      Alex / talexb / Toronto

      "Groklaw is the open-source mentality applied to legal research" ~ Linus Torvalds

        I don't think we should be freezing threads. There may be extremely rare and special cases for freezing threads, but overall I don't think it helps the readers and posters.
Re: Do we ever want to freeze threads?
by kutsu (Priest) on Dec 30, 2004 at 19:28 UTC

    This was actually my reply to freezing voting after a certain time, but my stance on threads like OT: The WarriorMonks still seems to apply to this discussion.

    Update: Fixed link

    "Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - I think that I think, therefore I think that I am." Ambrose Bierce

Re: Do we ever want to freeze threads?
by castaway (Parson) on Dec 30, 2004 at 20:12 UTC
    Just one question: Why?

    You seem to be wanting to discuss something with no particular reason for doing it. If you actually had a good one, to do or not do it, this thread might have a purpose in life ;)

    For the record, I see no reason why we should. (Making old nodes uneditable would be more useful, IMO, I would guess 99% of fiddling goes on with hours/days of creation)

    C.

        Just one question: Why?

      Because I thought it might be useful to prevent someone replying to a node that's several years old. That's because it's very unlikely that anyone's going to see it, and in any case it's probably in the wrong place.

      However this seems like a pretty unpopular idea .. that's fine, I just thought I'd suggest it. Just trying to be creative here.

      Alex / talexb / Toronto

      "Groklaw is the open-source mentality applied to legal research" ~ Linus Torvalds

        Because I thought it might be useful to prevent someone replying to a node that's several years old.

        There's nothing wrong with replying to a node that's several years old. Why is a discussion over hashes from two years ago no longer valid today?

        That's because it's very unlikely that anyone's going to see it, and in any case it's probably in the wrong place.

        Of course someone will see it. Discussions are valuable beyond any supposed expiration date. Many people use Search (or even Google) to find very useful old discussions on Perlmonks that help them with current situations. Any contributions made to such threads from the date of creation onward are of value - including the contributions of the person who found it useful.

        This isn't Slashdot. Discussions here are valid without end. There is no reason, in 2005, to be discussing how unfair it is that Kevin Mitnick is still being held in prison in an article posted to Slashdot in 2001. However, an in-depth discussion on map/join from 2003 is certainly worthwhile today. That is the major difference.
Re: Do we ever want to freeze threads?
by petdance (Parson) on Dec 31, 2004 at 22:11 UTC
    Do YOU see any benefit in preventing people from commenting?

    xoxo,
    Andy

      Nope -- the idea has received lots and lots of negative feedback, so at this point I'm sorry I even made the suggestion. It's an idea that no one loves, so it's toast.

      But :) thanks for asking.

      Alex / talexb / Toronto

      "Groklaw is the open-source mentality applied to legal research" ~ Linus Torvalds

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