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Re^2: [PT_BR] Escrever em Português no Perlmonks

by displeaser (Hermit)
on Jun 09, 2005 at 18:36 UTC ( [id://465249]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: [PT_BR] Escrever em Português no Perlmonks
in thread [PT_BR] Escrever em Português no Perlmonks

Hi,

no offence to non english speakers (my girlfriend is finnish so I know what it's like ;-) but I agree with cog here.

if half or even a quarter of the posts are in foreign languages I would have to think about where I want to spend my time. I don't really come to the Monestary to check through links to find something in a language I understand, thats madness (or at least just a little bit crazy).

Most, if not all air traffic controls in the world speak english to make sure there is a standard means of communication between like minded people (as in pilots not wanting to hit each others planes). I personally think that is the way this place should be. A lot more people know some english then know Spanish or dutch etc (not picking you folks in particular, first nations that came to mind).

If there was another site devoted to multi-language Perl'ism I would personally support it, but I dont think this would be a good idea for the Monestary.

BTW, I was one of the people who wen "what the F*~£ is this when I seen the ttle first.

just my 2 cents

Displeaser.

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Re^3: [PT_BR] Escrever em Português no Perlmonks
by salva (Canon) on Jun 10, 2005 at 08:38 UTC
    air traffic controlers are required to learn English, and so all of them can actually speak English. That isn't the case for Perl programmers, there are lots of people out there that doesn't know enough English to participate on this community.

    You can adopt several possitions when confronted with this situation:

    • I don't care, I can speak English, and the monastery is a comfortable place for me as it is now, If you can't speak English, well, it is your problem, because you should, it is the lingua franca on the Internet.
    • well, this poor perl programmers out there, not being able to speak English, they should have their own perlmonks.(pt|fr|de|es|tw|...)
    • I would not mind people posting in other languages on the monastery.
    • I believe a multilingual monastery would be a richer experience, I would be able to conversate with more people from a broader world in several languages (and get Portuguese lessons gratis, great!)

    So, where are you?

      Definitely the last position. And it is not just richer, it can be easier to work with.
      For me, I often have to work with french persons and english is our common language (which is good, because my french sucks). They have two kinds of english documentation:
      • Docs written by programmers who don't speak english very good. The texts are sometimes hard to read and very often misleading words are used. (maybe they come from babelfish experiments).
      • Docs translated by professionel interpreters. These docs are worse, because the interpreters don't have a clue, what they are writing about. So the text is formal easy to read but often doesn't make any sense.
      In either case it is good to have the same documentation in original french, even with my poor french knowledge.
Re^3: [PT_BR] Escrever em Português no Perlmonks
by fokat (Deacon) on Jun 09, 2005 at 22:59 UTC
    A lot more people know some english then know Spanish...

    Not to be (too much) picky, but I'll parse that as "A lot more people here in the monastery"...

    Best regards

    -lem, but some call me fokat

        Ok, I'll bite :) - but just for the sake of argument.

        Not to be too picky, but you could also parse that as "a lot more people in the world"

        The reference that anonymonk cited, places english (as first language) in 341 millions and spanish (again, as first language) in 322 to 358 millions. Here, I take this as a "could", although I tend to believe the real total is closer to the second number. (I may be biased since spanish is my first tongue). This would place me in agreement with the quoted opinion.

        Also, with ~50 million of school-going USA citizens (source), many of them getting spanish classes because of this, the difference in the second language category seems blurrier.

        Because of this, I'll keep my parser as it is, because with the current conditions, I'll most definitely be right within 2 to 3 years (assuming I'm not right today). OTOH, we should all be learning chinese :)

        Best regards

        -lem, but some call me fokat

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