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Re: Class::DBI mailing list meltdown

by cbrandtbuffalo (Deacon)
on Jul 28, 2005 at 20:00 UTC ( #479114=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Class::DBI mailing list meltdown

I'm still scratching my head a bit as well. The strange thing is that usually people view a spirited mailing list as a sign that a module is healthy! :-)

I know the cdbi mailing list was quite active and there seemed to be a strong community around it. This was certainly aided by the fact that Tony was on the list and an active participant. I hope things will blow over and the community can continue to contribute to such an excellent module.

Until then, I'm glad there are some copies of the wiki and list content out there because there is a ton of useful info in there.

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Re^2: Class::DBI mailing list meltdown
by shenme (Priest) on Jul 28, 2005 at 21:17 UTC
    Before even the question of whether the mailing list is 'spirited' or not, the presence of a mailing list as well as a Wiki are very good signs that a module (and developer) is healthy and trustworthy.

    As it would appear now, using the Class::DBI modules in one's own work looks like a scary decision to make.

    Can someone at least reassure me that the existing copies of CDBI and kin on CPAN can't be destroyed?

      Er, wait. Is the module still on CPAN? Of course it is. I don't see any problem here, if the module was working fine for you in the morning I don't see how it is suddenly going to become crap just because the current maintainer realized that he didn't want to offer these services for free and resourced out of his own pocket (or his companies pocket.)

      By your definition more than half of CPAN suddenly becomes scary, I maintain modules that I am not the original author of, but I take the patches and I take the criticism, but I don't provide a Wiki or a mailling list.

      Contribute, do something, don't whine online.

      /J\

        You are one of those people Tony should have banned. No feeling at all, all you care is the code that other people created.

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[Corion]: That's why I like HTML - it makes it relatively easy to resize stuff. Resizing with Powerpoint is much harder, or at least, I remember it being that way
[ambrus]: (a) good sans serif fonts optimized for slides in a projector with coverage of the symbols needed for mathematical formulas in a sans serif font matching the text font well, and
[ambrus]: (b) a good presentation system that lets the presenter quickly interactively edit the slides live during a presentation, to combine the advantages of blackboard and overhead slide styles in modern tech
[Corion]: Heh - in university, I cheated on (a) by doing blackboard presentations using chalk. But those were 2 hour presentations, not quick/essential/ reduced presentations where you want to show something quick
[ambrus]: (either on just one screen or two screens). this is necessary because
[ambrus]: overhead slide plus blackboard is inconvenient because the lighting conditions are different and they require separate areas you can't quickly repartition, and typing on keyboard is faster and more convenient than writing on a blackboard
[Corion]: (b) would be cool. I've thought about this doing Pod editing, and even simply regenerating/live updating the browser makes things much more interactive
[ambrus]: modern computers have way enough processing power to allow this, at least for geeks who are willing to spend a few weeks to learn a tricky new user interface like vim
[Corion]: ambrus: Well, for mathematical notation, I find blackboard much more convenient than a computer. But when inserting text or moving text around, the computer wins obviously
[ambrus]: But either of these is a big problem in practice, so I'd need to spend like thirty years of my life to solve (a) and five more years to solve (b)

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