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Re: Class::DBI mailing list meltdown

by Your Mother (Chancellor)
on Jul 28, 2005 at 22:30 UTC ( #479157=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Class::DBI mailing list meltdown

I like Tony's work and use it every day. I like Tony personally. Taking your ball home when a few kids don't act the way you want is an option but it doesn't make you look good. He broke/404ed many links I've put here and there recommending and advertising how much I like CDBI. There are many more developers out there who are grateful for the work and software than who are critical and whiny.

I had to fight to convince my last contracting manager that CDBI was a good way to go for a project. It was, and still is, but I probably couldn't convince him of it today if he was privy to the meltdown. Pulling the wiki's plug hurt a lot more "innocents" than it punished "offenders." I am sad.

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Re^2: Class::DBI mailing list meltdown
by Anonymous Monk on Jul 29, 2005 at 07:40 UTC

    You didn't get the point. Why should Tony care your advertising?

      You didn't provide a point, Anonymous, but I'll answer anyway.

      The point is this: developing free software, by definition, makes us amateurs. But when we behave like professionals is when open source shines and becomes a wealth generating resource for everyone involved. Dumping (metaphorically, the info is still there and I'm positive Tony didn't delete it or anything) an archive of publicly contributed knowledge because of a nebulous squabble is unprofessional. Someone who even changes their URI scheme is showing the work/resources to be less than reliable, let alone removing a whole site. If you're asking why a developer should personally care about this kind of situation, this kind of thing makes one less employable and one's fruits less sweet. Letting it get personal means you can't win.

      I've been contacted by 3 recruiters this year who wanted to either hire me or hear my recommendations for hiring someone else. I was on about a dozen hiring committees at the last corporation I was with. It's a long shot, but yes, as small a fish as I am, something as stupid as breaking a bunch of my links could theoretically cost someone a job offer. Though that's not what I am trying to say about the CDBI meltdown; it's just an example of why professionalism always counts.

      I'm sad because I know how Tony feels and I wish Tony knew how many fans he had. I don't expect him to do CDBI for anyone but himself but when you're dogpiled by a bunch hollow critics it's nice to know you have 10 times as many boosters; at least one of whom sent off list-mails to one of the dogpilers trying to get it to stop.

      update: 2 spelling fixes, and point out in case it wasn't clear that I do think Tony was well within rights; just sad about the situation.

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