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Re^2: Leaving the "Know-it-all" Paradigm towards a Programmers Mindset

by itub (Priest)
on Nov 07, 2005 at 22:58 UTC ( #506563=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Leaving the "Know-it-all" Paradigm towards a Programmers Mindset
in thread Leaving the "Know-it-all" Paradigm towards a Programmers Mindset

What, no group 4? ;-)

4. Those who know what they're doing, and don't know that they do.


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Re^3: Leaving the "Know-it-all" Paradigm towards a Programmers Mindset
by thor (Priest) on Nov 08, 2005 at 00:38 UTC
    I realize that you were being tongue-in-cheek, but I often consider the 4 stages of mastery to be (in order from least to greatest)
    1. Not knowing what you don't know (i.e. you've never heard of anything in the domain)
    2. Knowing what you know (i.e. you know only those things that you've specifically been told or looked up)
    3. Knowing what you don't know (i.e. you know those things learned above, but also realize and know what parts of the domain you've yet to learn)
    4. Not knowing what you know (i.e. your knowledge of the domain is so great that you can't list everything that you know about it, but are able to recall anything from within it)
    I think that I got this ordering from somewhere here in the monestary, but laziness prevents me from looking for it. I'm sure someone will come along and point to the reference.

    thor

    Feel the white light, the light within
    Be your own disciple, fan the sparks of will
    For all of us waiting, your kingdom will come

      This list of four states of knowledge is also known as

      1. unconsciously incompetent
      2. consciously incompetent
      3. consciously competent
      4. unconsciously competent
      I don't know where it comes from, but one of my friends and mentors mentioned it some time ago.

      Alex / talexb / Toronto

      "Groklaw is the open-source mentality applied to legal research" ~ Linus Torvalds

        It would seem that the what we're calling our respective lists should be switched. Mine pertains to knowledge in a particular domain while yours pertains to how well one does. To be sure, there is a correlation between knowledge and mastery, but being knowledgable does not necessarily imply being good and vice versa.

        thor

        Feel the white light, the light within
        Be your own disciple, fan the sparks of will
        For all of us waiting, your kingdom will come

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