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PerlMonks II: Son of Perlmonk

by Petruchio (Vicar)
on Mar 11, 2006 at 12:18 UTC ( #535931=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

I am pleased to announce that the new server hosting is ready for business. If you had an account on the old system, or you'd like a free Linux account, email either or I am about to leave town for the day, so if you write me soon there may be a delay in account creation.

jc managed to recover a lot of the old user directories. If yours was rescued, it should automatically be in your new directory upon account creation. If it's not... you can ask about it, but it's probably gone.

Please read POLICY and README.

By the way, jcwren, last I spoke to him of it, still hadn't come close to recouping his expenses. If you want to contribute, see Upgrade/Downtime Update for details. If he breaks even, I'll let folks know.

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Re: II: Son of Perlmonk
by jcwren (Prior) on Mar 11, 2006 at 15:58 UTC

    Allow me to clarify (although I thought dragonchild should have been around long enough by now to realize what's going on). is not a "site" per se, but a server. I provide Unix shell accounts, Perl, PHP, Ruby, C, etc, web services and databases (mySQL and postGres). There are no charge for these accounts, and reasonable terms of use (no p0rn, no commercial ventures, no serving warez or mp3s).

    Many users don't have access to a Unix shell account. Many others cannot design and host websites because of ISP restrictions, cost reasons, or an extremely thin pipe (think dialup). is an Athlon-64 2800+ CPU with a gig of memory, 250GB of disk, and is hung on a T1 provided by a friend of mine at no charge (we don't have the full T1, as it's his VoIP line at home). I restrict most accounts to 25MB a day web traffic, and generally request that people try to keep their disk usage reasonable. does not "compete" with, because there's nothing to "compete" about. They are completely disconnected in functionality.

    I've been providing this service for almost 5 years. For several years, I paid for an ISDN line for the server, and provided all the server equipment. ar0n (a long lost user) provided the first donation, a 60GB Maxtor that dies in December 2005. A handful of generous people have answered the call for financial donations to cover the new server equipment, although I'm still a little in the hole on it (normally I'd pay for it and not worry about it, but contract gigs have been tight, and the wallet is thin).

    Petruchio is my co-manager of the server, and has been exceedingly helpful in configuring the new server, and managing some of the more distasteful aspects (namely, postGrosspostGres).

    So there you have the real info, straight from the horses mouth. Or his keyboard. Or whatever.


    e-mail jcwren

      Just a suggestion: if the default page one gets upon visiting contained that same information, people like dragonchild who donít know about it could find out simply by visiting. (I believe the old site had that, so I assume that this will be rectified as you find the tuits for it.)

      Makeshifts last the longest.

Re: II: Son of Perlmonk
by DaWolf (Curate) on Mar 14, 2006 at 03:59 UTC
Re: II: Son of Perlmonk
by Scott7477 (Chaplain) on Mar 14, 2006 at 06:30 UTC
    jcwren responded very quickly to my request for an account at Navigating around has been fairly self-explanatory so far.

    I appreciate the opportunity to build a website and practice my coding and site management skills without having to cough up for monthly fees.

    Thanks, guys....
Re: II: Son of Perlmonk
by GrandFather (Sage) on Mar 13, 2006 at 09:42 UTC

    Is this the system that hosted which provided the PerlMonks stats? If so, is it anticipated that tinymicros will return, or has it gone to the great bit bucket in the sky?

    DWIM is Perl's answer to Gödel

      No, it's up. Apparently apache blew it's brains out on the vhost that serves the outside world. The local vhost was running fine, so I didn't realize there was a problem. I restarted apache, and all is well.


      e-mail jcwren

Re: II: Son of Perlmonk
by Anonymous Monk on Mar 17, 2006 at 00:03 UTC
    What is the new rsa key fingerprint? maps to
      The server's host key is not cached in the registry. You
      have no guarantee that the server is the computer you
      think it is.
      The server's rsa2 key fingerprint is:
      ssh-rsa 2048 50:1e:cc:c1:17:04:77:f4:d0:fe:ca:11:0f:f0:0f:0f
      If you trust this host, hit Yes
Re: II: Son of Perlmonk
by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Mar 11, 2006 at 13:50 UTC

    Update: Please forgive me. This was posted the day after Intrepid wrote his big scree about certain janitors and how he was feeling picked on. I thought that this was an extension of that.

        I think the problem is that dragonchild is suffering from a Lack of Perl. The symptom: not enough context.

        Jeff japhy Pinyan, P.L., P.M., P.O.D, X.S.: Perl, regex, and perl hacker
        How can we ever be the sold short or the cheated, we who for every service have long ago been overpaid? ~~ Meister Eckhart
        My question was completely effective, especially given that you know what my 'Why?' refers to. So, what's the answer? I have no desire to read through "He-said-She-said" for 100 pages. Please give me the skinny as to why Petruchio registered a mispelling and created a competitor site. From where I'm sitting, this looks like a petty act of "Nyahnyah". I'd like to think I'm wrong, though.

        My criteria for good software:
        1. Does it work?
        2. Can someone else come in, make a change, and be reasonably certain no bugs were introduced?

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