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Re^3: Winning people over to better development practises

by eyepopslikeamosquito (Chancellor)
on Mar 15, 2006 at 07:14 UTC ( #536787=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Winning people over to better development practises
in thread Winning people over to better development practises

I wondered, did you find it difficult to handle some people in winning them over to this?

For the people in my team, I had no difficulties whatsoever because I could sit with them and show them how to do it (as adrianh notes below: "show not tell").

For people in other teams, it depended on their interest and aptitude: some really surprised me by writing excellent unit tests without any prodding at all; others didn't seem to get it; others complained that they didn't have the time. Nobody said it was a stupid idea, the most common reason for not doing it was "I have a hard deadline and I just don't have the time right now, maybe I'll try it on my next project".

How did that change over time?

It's been over a year now, and TDD is growing slowly but steadily as the early adopters spread the word and show others how to do it. There are a certain percentage of programmers (maybe more than half) that don't read or study anything outside of work; the only way to reach them is to sit with them and show them how to do it.

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[thepkd]: sorry. i mean $aohoaoh[0]
[GotToBTru]: $aohoaoh is an array reference tho
[thepkd]: some guy was suggesting $aohoaoh[0]->{'foo '}[0]->{}. This wouldnt work.
[GotToBTru]: you're mixing notation there I think
[GotToBTru]: $aohoaoh->[0] is a hash reference, so $aohoaoh->[0]->{ key1} would work
[1nickt]: If 1nickt is the some guy, that's not what he said.
[GotToBTru]: thepkd might not know about last hour of cb
[1nickt]: my $x = $aohoaoh->[0]->{' foo'}->[0]->{'bar' }; should work
[thepkd]: its not $aohoaoh->[0]. its $aohoaoh[0]->{'foo '}. Tried it. Its working. Thnaks

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