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Re^2: Easiest city to find Perl work:

by jhourcle (Prior)
on Apr 18, 2006 at 18:28 UTC ( #544140=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: Easiest city to find Perl work:
in thread Easiest city to find Perl work:

I'm not sure what your definition of 'very few' is, and I'll admit I haven't done a statistically valid survey of the data, but I can tell you that there are perl jobs that are exactly what you describe. In fact, the one I'm in now was specifically looking for a person with 1-2 years of Perl experience for the primary task, although the person would also be a backup sysadmin for the department (only 3 IT folks in the department)

Here's the exact text (bad capitalization included), except for company info removed:

PERL Programmer / Sys Admin Position at {LOCATION}

{COMPANY} is seeking an intermediate-level PERL programmer for a full time position at the {DEPARTMENT} at {LOCATION}

Duties and responsibilities include:

  • developing and maintaining PERL software for near-realtime receipt of spacecraft data from a remote mission operations center
  • LINUX system administration
  • administering Apache Web servers
  • supporting {DEPARTMENT} team members on data archiving and access tasks

Successful candidates will have a Bachelors Degree, preferably in a computer-related discipline with 1-2 years of work experience developing PERL software. Proficiency with Interactive Data Language (IDL) is a plus.

US citizen or permanent resident status is required for this position.

(um ... I had ~8 years of Perl experience at that point ... I'm still not sure why I applied for the job, other than boredom from having been unemployed for a few months ... and I had heard good things about the location)

Now, from a project development standpoint -- keeping people on site makes sense -- when you need something, you can talk in person, not through e-mail, or have to fly someone in. It might not make sense for all companies, but for some, it does. (especially when you require security clearances, which results in multiple months before you can get full access)

Oh -- and I'm in the Washington, DC, area ... and the mailing list normally has a posting or two per week for people who are primarily Perl programmers.

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Re^3: Easiest city to find Perl work:
by Jenda (Abbot) on Aug 10, 2006 at 13:24 UTC

    If you need something you can send the person an IM message or exchange a few emails and get more details, better laid and have someplace to look for details later. Shoot me a message and you'll have the solution in half an hour, call me and we'll still be talking in half an hour.

      Sometimes that's easier said than done. (remember -- I already mentioned security clearances taking months)

      Imagine working at a place that has a restriction on the use of IM. They finally lifted the restriction for Jabber/SSL. We started using it for a couple of months, but then they changed the policy, and we had to file paperwork. So I did. A month or two later, I got permission to use it, specifically for the project I was working on. Then I was informed that I wasn't allowed to use a public Jabber server. So one of the folks on the project installed it. Another month or so later, the security folks called to get the IP address of the server. I told them, and they freaked out that it wasn't at our site. So I suddenly had to install Jabberd locally -- and I spent 2 weeks trying to get something working under MacOS 10.3 (which didn't have Java 1.5) with absolutely no luck (this was the point when the jabberd2 servers got hacked so many resources were unavailable). Finally, my boss got me developer access so I could install MacOS Server 10.4 beta on one of my machines (which came with jabberd).

      So yes, with IM, I can get a 10-30 min turn around on discussions as opposed to the 2 days that it took via e-mail. (and maybe 2 hrs using a mix of email and phone), but I've probably lost a month worth of man-hours in getting to the point where we can use it on this project. With 4 of us on the project, we've easily made the time up, but it's frustrating.

      Oh ... it was bad enough that at one point, we were using various 'talk' varients

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