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Re: Is it real? (mu)

by tye (Cardinal)
on Jun 01, 2006 at 05:01 UTC ( #552975=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Is it real?

Interesting. I decided that this poll was written in "English as a second language". It appears that many have interpretted it as "Which is (the most) real?", though I'm not sure how they get that from "Is it real?". I quite liked the selection of mythical things, however.

- tye        


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Re^2: Is it real? (mu)
by greenFox (Vicar) on Jun 01, 2006 at 07:12 UTC

    Agreed, so I took a vote each way for "true love" :-)

    --
    Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. -Basho

Re^2: Is it real? (mu)
by apotheon (Deacon) on Jun 01, 2006 at 18:33 UTC

    I'd expect a programmer to understand how it is interpreted as roughly equivalent to "Which is (the most) real?" — just think of "it" as a variable! Sure, it doesn't start with a dollar sign, but not all variables are in Perl.

    it = "Bigfoot"; print "Is it real?";

    output:
    Is Bigfoot real?

    print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);
    - apotheon
    CopyWrite Chad Perrin

      That would explain why voting for Bigfoot would be voting for "Is Bigfoot real?", but does not explain why such a vote would be interpretted as voting for "Bigfoot is real". If people appeared to be interpretting the poll as "I most like to question the reality of _", then I might buy your argument. As is, it looks like "logic as a second language". ;)

      - tye        

        Ah, but: keep in mind that in Perl (as well as some other languages) having any positive value at all causes a variable to evaluate as "true" when tested for "truth". Thus, a vote for "Is Bigfoot real?" assigns it a value that evaluates as "true", aka "yes".

        Or something.

        DWIM, darn you! DWIM!

        print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);
        - apotheon
        CopyWrite Chad Perrin

Re^2: Is it real? (mu)
by Anonymous Monk on Jun 02, 2006 at 21:36 UTC
    It's a bad poll.

    It asks about the reality of something; without listing what that something refers to. Then it lists a bunch of things that some people believe are real, and others don't.

    What if I believe in everything on the list except two are real? I would probably vote for one of them -- but which one?

    What if I believe that nothing on the list except two are real? Again, I would probably vote for one of them -- and again, which one should I vote for?

    It's a bad poll. It doesn't present a set of mutually exclusive options with an opinion-based decision critera to choose among them; which is the whole point of a poll.

      You're taking this whole poll thing waaaay too seriously. Next, you'll complain it's not scientific.

      (For the record, I don't care for the polls, so I simply don't vote for them. That doesn't mean I whine about the things I don't like about 'em - I just change the channel and move on. Obviously, I read the replies once in a while, especially when I don't remember that the thread is a poll instead of a SoPW or Meditation.)

        You're taking this whole poll thing waaaay too seriously.

        Basic spelling, grammar, and logic are the minimum requirements for proper social interaction: it's rude to force other people to guess at your meaning, to be deliberately unclear, or to speak or reason incorrectly; it suggest that you don't care enough about your peers to spend the time to do it right.

        I don't know what's happening to people's manners and morals, but it isn't good.

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