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Re: Modules which improve system() ?

by jesuashok (Curate)
on Jun 23, 2006 at 08:14 UTC ( #557113=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Modules which improve system() ?

Hi pjf

Even If I use your Some::Module qw/run/ ( I would say only 'System::Run' ) Inside the module what is your definition is going to be ? what would you use to run my unix commands like, `complicated sed commmands`,runnung another perl programs, running the commands like telnet,ftp,lpr .. etc.


How the efficiency is going to be when I use the module ( Some::Module)? what are all the factors you are going to consider for efficiency ? Or, you are going to concentrate only on returning the proper error codes and throwing the proper exvceptions.

I appreciate your good start.

"Keep pouring your ideas"

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Re^2: Modules which improve system() ?
by pjf (Curate) on Jun 23, 2006 at 08:34 UTC

    I'm specifically after a module that makes it dead simple to call system() for the most simple cases, and still get proper error-handling. What I essentially want is Fatal for system().

    That means we're not capturing output, and we're not doing complicated pipelines. If you want a module that handles all that and more, then there's IPC::Run. It's complete, but it's not simple.

    What's proper-error handling for the most simple cases? Well, if your program never started, that's an error. If it got killed by a signal or dumped core, then you probably didn't expact that, so that's an error too. If it returns a non-zero exit status, then that's also an error unless you pass an argument to say otherwise.

    As for efficiency, this is a clear case where correctness should easily trump speed. system() is slow to begin with, since there's all that fork-and-exec'ing going on under the hood. Having error-checking that's hard to get wrong (ie, exceptions), and having meaningful error messages (instead of die "Ooops! $! - $?") is going to be much better for correctness and programmer productivity in the long run.

    This is very much a case of wanting something that makes simple things easy. We've already got many ways of making the hard things possible.


      As I just mentioned in this post, how about IPC::Run3?

      From its Pod:

      compared to system(), qx'', open "...|", open "|...": + redirects more than one file descriptor + returns TRUE on success, FALSE on failure + throws an error if problems occur in the parent process (or the +pre-exec child) + allows a very perlish interface to Perl data structures and subr +outines + allows 1 word invocations to avoid the shell easily: run3 ["foo"]; # does not invoke shell - does not return the exit code, leaves it in $?

      So you could use it like this:

      eval { run3 $program } or die "Errors running $program";

      Its docs leave a bit to be desired, but the current maintainer might be willing to take some doc patches...


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        I concur with my learned friend on IPC::Run3 as a direct replacement to system(), although it can't do some of the more interactive tricks of IPC::Run.

        Morover, IPC::Run3 works on every single platform flawlessly, and so it makes for a very safe dependency. Some of the others do have the odd platform issue.

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