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Re^3: Perl is dying

by Fletch (Chancellor)
on Jul 14, 2006 at 21:00 UTC ( #561323=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Perl is dying
in thread Perl is dying

Yeah, how dare you people point out that they're wrong. How dare you people point out their ignorance and where to remedy it.

We should coddle them and inculcate their incorrect notions and ignorance. Perish the thought that they should be pointed to the ample documentation where they can help themselves and improve in the process. Everyone should be spoon fed whatever they need immediately regardless of the effort they've exhibited. Otherwise it might mortally wound their fragile self esteem. Or they might get the idea that programming is an intellectual endeavor with certain inherent rigors. Perish the thought.

Shame on you all.

What? . . . Oh, sorry. Sarcasmometer was set to 11. Let's just dial that back a bit, shan't we?

I've never seen anyone go apoplectic over "PERL". This is apoplectic:

GOOD FRELLING GRIEF, WHAT KIND OF FRAKING MORON ARE YOU! EVERYONE AND THEIR SISTER'S DOG KNOWS THAT "PERL" IS NOT AN ACRONYM YOU VACUOUS, TOFFEE-NOSED, MALODOROUS PERVERT! IT'S "perl" OR "Perl" YOU SECOND HAND ELECTRIC DONKEY BOTTOM BITER!

This is what usually happens:

"Perl" is the language, "perl" is the implementation; "PERL" is just wrong.

See the difference?

As to being told to RTFM, most of the time that's probably because:

  • the querent asked an extremely trivial question
  • the querent showed no effort on their part to begin with
  • it's an extremely simple question to begin with
  • TFM answers said question rather succinctly to begin with (that, you know, kinda being the purpose of having good documentation)

The few times I've gotten RTFM'd on a couple of the Ruby IRC channels it's shown me where to find TFM that I wasn't aware of (things like ri or the standard library docs online). An RTFM is also a form of teaching you how to fish for yourself.

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Re^4: Perl is dying
by astroboy (Chaplain) on Jul 14, 2006 at 22:57 UTC
    *Sigh* - I was using "apoplectic" as a rhetorical device, I didn't mean it to be taken 100% literally. Kind of like your use of sarcasm, until you went and undid all of you good work by saying "Oh, sorry. Sarcasmometer was set to 11." Do you explain punchlines too in case people don't know when you're joking?
Re^4: Perl is dying
by Anonymous Monk on Jul 14, 2006 at 22:03 UTC
    I've never seen anyone go apoplectic over "PERL". This is apoplectic:
    GOOD FRELLING GRIEF, WHAT KIND OF FRAKING MORON ARE YOU! EVERYONE AND THEIR SISTER'S DOG KNOWS THAT "PERL" IS NOT AN ACRONYM YOU VACUOUS, TOFFEE-NOSED, MALODOROUS PERVERT! IT'S "perl" OR "Perl" YOU SECOND HAND ELECTRIC DONKEY BOTTOM BITER!
    This is what usually happens:
    "Perl" is the language, "perl" is the implementation; "PERL" is just wrong.
    See the difference?
    New here, eh?

    People who write perl, Perl and PERL
    PERL as shibboleth and the Perl community
    Capitalizing acronyms (Re: Is PERL case sensitive?)

    I suppose some of that isn't so bad, but it looks awfully stupid. I'd dig up other examples, but it's extremely hard to search for different capitalizations.

      Erm, and which of those exactly was "apoplectic"? Aside from the fact that none of those was in response to the misuse of "PERL" by someone asking a question (the complaint to which I was responding), they're all reasoned, well written, and not at all hyperbolic in their rhetoric.

      If you find any of those overly hostile (again, the particular claim I was addressing) perhaps you should look into some sort of skin thickener. Maybe those "Oil of Olay" people make some kind of balm or lotion you could use.

      So where you involved in those threads? The only one that seemed to be kind of jerky was Tom. I am told by a couple people he can be that way.

      However, these examples fail to show people getting apopletic over "PERL"

        Are we talking about apopletic or apoplectic? The root to the second word is apoplexy? I like definition one...
        1. Sudden impairment of neurological function, especially that resulting from a cerebral hemorrhage; a stroke.
        ...seems anyone worrying about PERL vs. perl has probably lost some higher brain function. Or are we talking about apocalyptic?
        3. Characterized by usually exaggerated predictions of or allusions to a disastrous outcome: “Not knowing the provenance of P.E.R.L. is tantamount to spitting in the face of Perl luminaries."

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