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Re: OT: please replace this board by a better one

by b10m (Vicar)
on Aug 25, 2006 at 19:30 UTC ( #569692=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to plz replace this super ugly & damned bad board by a supergood one: take open source [of course]

There are a lot of things on here I don't like either, but at least people are (were?) working on a NNTP gateway, IIRC, so that's a start. You mention one of the most horrible things that happened to mankind after Mao though: phpBB... but that's probably just too 1337 for me...OMG LOL ROFLMAO! {image}{image}{image}{bold large colored font crap}{image}{image}

Yes, there are quite a few things that I don't like about this place too, but either I got used to it, or I don't care about it too much to overcome my perpetual state of laziness and actually write a patch for it.

A threaded setup is vital for Perlmonks, IMHO. Discussions usually fly from left to right here. I don't have time to check this place every 10 seconds, so -with my bad memory- I need to see the structure, and I fear a lot of monks are like me in that way.

phpBB (yeah, as if we'd use a PHP solution) is bad in another way. It gives out a big list with all its members, including their email addresses (although I think at least they don't enable that "feature" by default anymore). WWW::Mechanize would love that though ...

Last but not least: since you can alter your CSS stylesheet, you can change it as much as you'd like. So, here's a challenge for you: create a stylesheet (Greasemonkey script for all I care) that transforms Perlmonks into a phpBB board! Would be fun to work on, and I'd like to see the result!

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Comment on Re: OT: please replace this board by a better one
Re^2: OT: please replace this board by a better one
by perl_lover_girl on Aug 25, 2006 at 20:50 UTC
    thx b10m - valid thougths

    A threaded setup is vital for Perlmonks, IMHO. Discussions usually fly from left to right here. I don't have time to check this place every 10 seconds, so -with my bad memory- I need to see the structure, and I fear a lot of monks are like me in that way.

    phpBB (yeah, as if we'd use a PHP solution) is bad in another way. It gives out a big list with all its members, including their email addresses (although I think at least they don't enable that "feature" by default anymore). would love that though ...

    above all - :: loook at the usability - and look at the other boards over there. plz take a good board like the phpBB.com bulletin board - it is runned on 200 000sites. well guess that this is tested 200 000 environments.

    believe me - you could win alot

    Your board has absolutely no usability

    again;: see the board on www.devshed.com



    bye your perl_girl
      Your board has absolutely no usability again;: see the board on www.devshed.com

      Again, as others have pointed out, "it's more useable" is not an argument that will move many people. "Go try out another board" is also not an argument that many will take up, as we're pretty much OK with what we have.

      The constant influx of new Monks, many of whom stay, indicates that your dislike is not universally shared by users, old or new. "Usability" means more than "I like the way it works, or hate the way it works", it's about making something for a large cross-section of users. In that wise, Perlmonks seems to be doing A-OK.

      On your urging, I've re-visited the devshed forums, as well as the other forums you misspelled in your original post. What do they have that Perlmonks lacks, or does not supply? The one thing I noticed is fast load times, and Perlmonks is not in a position to pay for servers; we're running on someone else's goodwill, from what I understand (see the bottom legend for more on that.)

      Other than that, I fail to see the details that you see. perhaps if you took the time to explain what you mean by "usability", and in a manner that does NOT denigrate the hard work of the people who provide this site, you'll find your commentary taken far, far more seriously.

      Simply put, the title "plz replace this super ugly & damned bad board..." will not will you many plaudits by the community in question. Constructive criticism, however, might be of use. Does that help clarify many of the responses?

      ----Asim, known to some as Woodrow.

      A threaded setup is vital for Perlmonks, IMHO.

      First, your 'O' doesn't seem very 'H' to me. But getting beyond that, you state "A threaded setup is vital for Perlmonks..." Vital? Really? This site has had tens of thousands of unique visitors, thousands of semi-regular users, hundreds of regulars, and has seen over 560000 posts over the course of five years. Among its regulars, you'll find authors of Perl and other computer-related books, professional programmers, authors and maintainers of Perl modules, Perl language developers, hobbyists, students, and teachers. Some users have produced thousands of posts. The site is among the top Google hits for "Perl". It has a section in Wikipedia. "PerlMonks" as a Google search term yields 259,000 hits. There is an answers.com entry on PerlMonks.

      What is my point? My point is "vital" implies that a lack of this 'vital' component would induce failure. The site has thrived, so clearly the components vital to its flourishing existence are present.

      As for "threaded setup", what do you think this discussion is, a disorganized bunch of nodes? No, it's a discussion thread. And if you want to see an overview of threads, you can look at Recently Active Threads (there's a link to that at the top righthand region of your screen).

      If you dislike the look of the site, you're in luck. You can produce your own CSS attributes to customize the aesthetics and arrangement of pages here. There are other customizations available under your user settings. And there's always the Free Nodelet. And let's not forget the fact that there are RSS feeds available, and guess what; they're threaded. You can also get XML tickers for the site, and one of them offers a threaded view.

      If you'd like to join us please do, and enjoy. But if you feel that participation here won't be a pleasing and enjoyable experience for you, go ahead and do what you feel is best for maximizing your own Perl experience. Start a site designed around your ideals, or join pmdev to help us improve your percieved deficiencies here, or hang out on Usenet.


      Dave

        I think you've missed something.
        A threaded setup is vital for Perlmonks, IMHO.
        and the following text was not written by perl_lover_girl. It is a quote from the parent thread.


        holli, /regexed monk/

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