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Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:

by planetscape (Canon)
on May 21, 2007 at 19:47 UTC ( #616626=poll: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

vote on Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:

reading my mail
[bar] 28/6%
answering my phone
[bar] 21/5%
watching television
[bar] 88/20%
my social life
[bar] 57/13%
eating
[bar] 7/2%
sleeping
[bar] 22/5%
bathing
[bar] 28/6%
sex
[bar] 93/21%
other
[bar] 107/24%
451 total votes
Comment on Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by jZed (Prior) on May 21, 2007 at 20:22 UTC
    Basic, Pascal, Prolog, C, C++, Java ...

      Basic, Pascal, Prolog, C, C++, Java ...

      ... awk, sed and shell programming ...

      I ticked "watching television" which actually happened the very instant I discovered Perl.

      Cheers, Sören

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by Errto (Vicar) on May 21, 2007 at 20:57 UTC
    Nothing on that list (at least nothing I was doing previously) but shell scripts and, oddly enough, C. I used to (and arguably still do) consider myself fluent enough in C to use it for little one-off programs whenever I had some random problem to solve involving a computer, but Perl is a lot easier and more flexible, and Java's too inconvenient for small programs.
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by starX (Chaplain) on May 21, 2007 at 21:10 UTC
    Worrying about how I was going to get something done. I was always reasonably sure that between C, Java, sed, awk, bash, and Tcl/Tk, I would be able to get just about anything done that I needed to, but with Perl, I'm ALWAYS positive that there is a way, and that it won't take much to learn how to implement. And thanks to this place, I'm doubly sure of the latter.
      ++starX,

      I was thinking much the same thing, but wondering how to put it into words.  Then I saw your post.

      It captures the sentiment exactly, for me.  With Perl, it's no longer a question of "whether" it can be done, just "how" best to do it.  It always felt possible in C, but not ever quite so easy.

      There's an amazing empowerment that Perl imbues one with, isn't there!  ;-D


      s''(q.S:$/9=(T1';s;(..)(..);$..=substr+crypt($1,$2),2,3;eg;print$..$/
        Ditto here. Perl gives me the confidence, that I can write a script to do what I need. Borrowing from Prarie Home Companion 's Buttermilk bisquits

        " Perl .... gives average programmers the strength to get up and do what needs to be done."


        I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. Cogito ergo sum a bum

      nice way to put it!

      these days I often think about to do things in parrot...;)

      cheers --stephan
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by Tux (Monsignor) on May 21, 2007 at 21:21 UTC

    Like others, I have almost completely lost touch with awk, but also with writing filters, conversion programs and (database) glue utilities in plain C, as not only is perl easier, more versatile, more portable and more maintanable, but for sure more FUN!

    And I think my social live gained momentum after working with perl. This community is great! I've discovered mailing lists, IRC, fora etc etc just because of perl.

    And I still keep watching TV, but perl made my radio experience quite different. First of all, internet radio can be (perl) scripted, so you only hear what you like, and by IRC you can chat with the radio station owners and influence what is played :) Who'd have thought that 10 years ago?


    Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn
      [...]
      First of all, internet radio can be (perl) scripted, so you only hear what you like
      [...]
      Could you please elaborate a bit on that topic?


      holli, /regexed monk/

        I took over the maintainership of this module, and finished with the actions I had in mind that made me take over:

        • meta-info (quotes in parsed line, binary data)
        • Documentation improvement

        Next to that, I did a code-cleanup, added loads of tests, fixed two open bugs, and got to understand both CSV iand/i the code for Text::CSV_XS a lot better, so I reached my primary goal.

        Now that I didn't loose interrest (yet), I might as well go further, and implement the the wishes of the end-users, and make this module even more valuable.

        I already got some mails, and many wishes regarding Text::CSV_XS do IMHO not belong inside the module itself. Not just to promote another of my modules, but most end-user wishes are already implemented in the xlscat utility that I ship with Spreadsheet::Read, that deals with CSV files as if they were a spreadsheet.

        UPDATE: This post is in the wrong thread. /me should not open two windows at trhe same time. Sorry!

        Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn

        I talked about this, and demonstrated it, in a lightning talk in Ireland on YAPC::Europe.

        Short explanation is, that if a internat radio station has the playlist available on the internet too, and the playlist is reasonably well in sync with what is actually played, you can write a script that reads the playlist, and adjusts the volume of the radio (volume is player independant) based on a list of groups you have and a rating you put with each performer.

        The next step is to switch station if the station starts playing things you don't like. All xmms like players (and many others probably too) support external interfaces that control there behaviour.

        Once you have found two stations on choice, you can freely alternate between those and vary the volume.

        For me the fun went further, because the station it all started with supports an internal rating system. You can rate songs as they are played, and you can put comments with each song..

        I then read back these ratings, make an avarage score per performer, and control volume and station switch on these scores.

        I've made no secret of my preference of music, and the last script is available in my journal section of Radio Paradise.

        BTW I don't listen to Radio Paradise anymore, since the noise ratio went up too high. I switched to Stellar Attraction. Please all enjoy your own taste!


        Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by merlyn (Sage) on May 21, 2007 at 22:35 UTC
      O' indeed! I don't futz around with sed when \ is going to be involved, just break out perl.
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by PerlBear (Hermit) on May 21, 2007 at 23:07 UTC
    Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
    FORTRAN -- 77, 90, 95 ..........
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by perrin (Chancellor) on May 21, 2007 at 23:38 UTC
    Hungarian notation.

      do you mean you only use globs or that you don't use strict?! I thought the sigils were hungarian notation by another name. Although wikipedia makes the distinction that hungarian is for the programmer and sigils are for the compiler.

      How can you feel when you're made of steel? I am made of steel. I am the Robot Tourist.
      Robot Tourist, by Ten Benson

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by gsiems (Chaplain) on May 22, 2007 at 03:14 UTC

    Funny, when I discovered Perl I found myself having more time for reading my mail, answering my phone, social life, etc. Well, except for the television part (what's a television?).

    So, since discovering Perl, I've given up less.

        According to Mies, less is more.
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by wjw (Deacon) on May 22, 2007 at 04:24 UTC
    All the above.

    update: not because of Perl however... :-)

    • ...the majority is always wrong, and always the last to know about it...
    • The Spice must flow...
    • ..by my will, and by will alone.. I set my mind in motion
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by DrHyde (Prior) on May 22, 2007 at 09:08 UTC
    I've given up caring.

    About memory manglement, amongst other things.

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by shmem (Canon) on May 22, 2007 at 09:23 UTC
    I confess that I gave up C-shell scripting, which means that I confess I did it in the first place. That's because with perl I also discovered Tom Christiansen's csh.whynot which apart from true is fun reading. I still consult the file sometimes, whenever I have forgotten (again) the filehandle redirection syntax of /bin/sh.

    --shmem

    _($_=" "x(1<<5)."?\n".q·/)Oo.  G°\        /
                                  /\_¯/(q    /
    ----------------------------  \__(m.====·.(_("always off the crowd"))."·
    ");sub _{s./.($e="'Itrs `mnsgdq Gdbj O`qkdq")=~y/"-y/#-z/;$e.e && print}
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by margulies (Friar) on May 22, 2007 at 09:27 UTC
    My liver.

    If I've been in all these social mettings for sure I would :)
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by rev_1318 (Chaplain) on May 22, 2007 at 09:28 UTC
    sed, awk, shell scripts in general, etc.
    no need for seperate tools if you have a multi tool!

    Paul

      a multi tool that does things better and less ugly! ;-)
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by syphilis (Canon) on May 22, 2007 at 10:27 UTC
    Great poll !! ... now, if I can just find the "all of the above" button, I'll submit my vote.

    Cheers,
    Rob
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by jonadab (Parson) on May 22, 2007 at 12:21 UTC

    QBasic, and also writing DOS batch files. I've also given up DOS, Windows, and television, but those are things I gave up for other reasons, not because of Perl; whereas, giving up QBasic was directly the result of learning Perl.

    I would have given up batch programming later, when I gave up DOS and Windows, but in that case I probably would have had to replace them with shell scripting, if not for Perl. As it stands, I gave them up sooner, while I was still using DOS and Windows, and when I switched over to Linux (and now FreeBSD) I have never taken up shell scripting. I don't need to write shell scripts, because I speak Perl.

    I've also given up on Python and PHP, both of which I tried to make myself learn sometime after taking up Perl. They didn't take. I do still mean to try Ruby at some point. The way I figure it, I'd better learn Ruby soon, before Perl6 really becomes practical, or otherwise I'll never get around to it.

    -- 
    We're working on a six-year set of freely redistributable Vacation Bible School materials.
      The way I figure it, I'd better learn Ruby soon, before Perl6 really becomes practical, or otherwise I'll never get around to it

      Plenty o' time :-)

      Cheers,
      Rob
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by marto (Chancellor) on May 22, 2007 at 12:44 UTC
    I've given up giving up.

    Martin
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by lin0 (Curate) on May 22, 2007 at 12:46 UTC

    Matlab. With the help of PDL and some CPAN modules, I have managed to port all the code I had written in Matlab to Perl. Moreover, I started to use Perl and PDL for some of the image processing and analysis tasks for which I used to use ITK (a set of C++ libraries for image processing, registration, and segmentation).

    Cheers,

    lin0
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by andreas1234567 (Vicar) on May 22, 2007 at 13:50 UTC
    Being ashamed over the fact that I don't have the brains to do what I want in C/C++.
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by talexb (Canon) on May 22, 2007 at 15:23 UTC

    Writing frustratingly similar C programs to fiddle with flat-file databases, and composing tortuous awk scripts.

    I do miss writing in C -- there's nothing like writing a blindingly fast piece of code, but it does take some doing to get it right. Perl has utterly spoiled me from going back. And awk was a lot of fun ("Wow! This is *so* cool!") to learn, but it quickly became limiting -- like wanting to put the entire program into the BEGIN block because I didn't actually want to process any lines of input, just do other stuff.

    Alex / talexb / Toronto

    "Groklaw is the open-source mentality applied to legal research" ~ Linus Torvalds

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by Anonymous Monk on May 22, 2007 at 16:33 UTC
    Sex. I'm married with children; I wasn't getting any anyhow.
      gave up datastage (ETL Tool)
      You beat me to it. Misery loves company. 8-)
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by Herkum (Parson) on May 22, 2007 at 23:29 UTC

    Someone made a mistake with this poll, it needed checkboxes instead a radio button.

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by Moriarty (Abbot) on May 23, 2007 at 02:24 UTC

    I don't know that I've given up anything, especially since 99% of my Perl programming is done at work, and I have never let my work interfere with life.

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by arc_of_descent (Hermit) on May 23, 2007 at 02:42 UTC

    Watching Television... and PHP. A little advocacy doesn't hurt.


    --
    Rohan

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by Anonymous Monk on May 23, 2007 at 17:03 UTC
    ...i gave up nothing but started fantasizing about kudra
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by logan (Curate) on May 23, 2007 at 19:14 UTC
    Since I discovered Perl I've given up poverty. Perl was what got me out of the ups and downs of professional radio and into a steady job coding. The first year as an engineer I made four times what I made in my best year as a DJ, and the second year I made ten times that thanks to stock options.

    Sometimes late at night or on a long drive I play the "What if" game. In retrospect, if I'd been more successful at radio I wouldn't have been as inclined to quit and pursue a career in high tech. Even then it was a tough decision, and not one that was entirely voluntary. Looking back at the changes to the broadcast industry since I left, I'm glad I got out when I did. Almost everyone I know from back in the day has had extended periods of unemployment during the last decade and still lives paycheck to paycheck.

    All that said, it was perl that got me coding at my first company, it was perl that got the early versions of the product up and running fast, and it was perl that let us react fast when we needed a tool or a patch right now. It was perl that got me into startup number two where I was able to ride out the tech bust of the early 2000s, and it was perl that gave me the generalized coding skill to work with other languages.

    -Logan
    "What do I want? I'm an American. I want more."

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by Anonymous Monk on May 23, 2007 at 19:19 UTC
    i never answered my phone, anyway. however, i have started lusting after kudra.
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by blue_cowdawg (Prior) on May 24, 2007 at 00:01 UTC

    Shell scripts that pipe to other shell scripts that pipe to awk, wc, bc, cut, paste, .... you get the idea.

    I couldn't answer "gave up social life" because you have to have one to give one up. :-)

    Same goes with a few of the other choices...


    Peter L. Berghold -- Unix Professional
    Peter -at- Berghold -dot- Net; AOL IM redcowdawg Yahoo IM: blue_cowdawg
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by jesuashok (Curate) on May 24, 2007 at 06:48 UTC
    fear of programming.

    Updated
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by elsiddik (Scribe) on May 24, 2007 at 08:53 UTC
    well since i moved from Holland to australia last year im still not thinking about buying a new TV - perl replaced that idiot screen.
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by tbone1 (Monsignor) on May 24, 2007 at 12:36 UTC
    Like many, I've given up on awk, sed, and all those other tools that were once standard toolkits for Unix programmers. I have also given up NOT seeing the world as a list of things. Sad, really.

    Or if you mean this Perl, then I've given up the idea of having a blue tick coon hound for the next few years.

    --
    tbone1, YAPS (Yet Another Perl Schlub)
    And remember, if he succeeds, so what.
    - Chick McGee

      ... that were once standard toolkits for Unix programmers ...
      Why once? Just because a bunch of monks preferes Perl, doesn't mean awk and sed are outdated. Let alone shell scripting.


      holli, /regexed monk/
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by johngg (Abbot) on May 24, 2007 at 14:51 UTC
    Segmentation fault: core dumped

    Cheers,

    JohnGG

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by naikonta (Curate) on May 28, 2007 at 10:06 UTC
    Given up sex? Given up sex? Sex? Nooooooooo way!

    Open source softwares? Share and enjoy. Make profit from them if you can. Yet, share and enjoy!

      Given up sex? Given up sex? Sex? Nooooooooo way!

      So didn't you start using Perl to better manage huge pr0n downloads? Well, let's get ready for PERL SEX. (All uppercase spelling intended.)

        *LOL*

        blazar, this must be one of the funniest nodes I ever read here. I, however, don't have 22 years Experience, TWO degrees in this matter. Thank you :-) Update: and ++ for the entertainment.


        Open source softwares? Share and enjoy. Make profit from them if you can. Yet, share and enjoy!

Reaped: Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by NodeReaper (Curate) on May 28, 2007 at 10:07 UTC
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by straywalrus (Friar) on May 29, 2007 at 17:27 UTC
    Uh, I haven't *given up* anything since I discovered perl; If anything, perl has always given me more time, since it's easy on the eye (most of the time), includes most everything you could need & has relatively good speed. Those, plus it runs everywhere that I have to use it (IRIX, Solaris, Windblows, BSD, Linux, even VMS) with the same consistency everywhere.
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by GrandFather (Cardinal) on May 29, 2007 at 19:19 UTC

    Answering polls.


    DWIM is Perl's answer to Gödel
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by chanio (Priest) on May 30, 2007 at 05:30 UTC
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by GammaRay Rob (Friar) on May 30, 2007 at 14:32 UTC
    Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
    Work!
    (Actually, they are one and the same...)
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by DrWhy (Chaplain) on May 31, 2007 at 01:20 UTC
    Nothing! Perl has made my coding so much more efficient, that I now have more time for stuff that doesn't involve programming a computer.

    --DrWhy

    "If God had meant for us to think for ourselves he would have given us brains. Oh, wait..."

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by Anonymous Monk on May 31, 2007 at 01:51 UTC
    Jesus*. But the two events are not really related.

    * He drove the van and I got a reduced sentence for it.

Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by dynamo (Chaplain) on May 31, 2007 at 22:04 UTC
    I gave up voting in web polls.
Re: Since I discovered Perl, I've given up:
by japhy (Canon) on Jun 01, 2007 at 11:23 UTC
    How about some frustrated person's response? (Not mine.) "Since I discovered Perl, I've given up Perl."

    Jeff japhy Pinyan, P.L., P.M., P.O.D, X.S.: Perl, regex, and perl hacker
    How can we ever be the sold short or the cheated, we who for every service have long ago been overpaid? ~~ Meister Eckhart

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