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scope in extreme programming

by Anonymous Monk
on Jun 21, 2007 at 09:12 UTC ( #622511=perlquestion: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??
Anonymous Monk has asked for the wisdom of the Perl Monks concerning the following question:

what does the term "scope" mean in the context of "extreme programming" ?

Comment on scope in extreme programming
Re: scope in extreme programming
by moritz (Cardinal) on Jun 21, 2007 at 09:55 UTC
    If the context is a variable, the scope is the part of the program where that variable is visible. (That's an oversimplification, though).

    If it says "the scope if this test is..." then it might translate to "this test covers...".

    But we need more context to give a better answer.

    English, like Perl, is context sensitive (or was it the other way round? ;-)

Re: scope in extreme programming
by adrianh (Chancellor) on Jun 21, 2007 at 12:47 UTC
    what does the term "scope" mean in the context of "extreme programming" ?

    Basically the work that needs to be done.

Re: scope in extreme programming
by Moron (Curate) on Jun 21, 2007 at 13:26 UTC
    I could think of 5 different answers during the first ten seconds, so obviously you need to narrow the question down a bit. Do you mean project scope? variable declaration scope? scope of different roles such as programmer, designer, etc. in such projects? The "scope creep" effect for such projects? The accepted scope of an "incremental change" ... personally I question whether extreme programming is a proper methodology as opposed to being what happens when IT people are put under pressure to deliver without ever being given the chance to "clean the kitchen" (I realise I suffer from it frequently!!)
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    ^M Free your mind!

Re: scope in extreme programming
by shmem (Canon) on Jun 21, 2007 at 21:13 UTC
    Related question:
    What does the term "term" mean in the context of "time counting"?

    And your perl question is?

    --shmem

    _($_=" "x(1<<5)."?\n".q·/)Oo.  G°\        /
                                  /\_¯/(q    /
    ----------------------------  \__(m.====·.(_("always off the crowd"))."·
    ");sub _{s./.($e="'Itrs `mnsgdq Gdbj O`qkdq")=~y/"-y/#-z/;$e.e && print}

      I didn't realize that extreme programming and Perl were mutually exclusive.

      I'd like to read about extreme programming. I think it is an interesting and useful subject to be discussed at a site meant to be useful to Perl programmers.

      If you'd like to only get Perl syntax questions and flames telling people that their question would be more appropriate in comp.programming.extreme, then perhaps you'd be happier using Usenet instead of PerlMonks. To my delight, PerlMonks is not Usenet.

      - tye        

        I didn't realize that extreme programming and Perl were mutually exclusive.

        Update:
        OK, I'm sorry I misinterpreted your words. I came across this website a while ago. It's been up for a few years so I think most people already knew about it. I bring it up here because I see some relevant context to the collaboration between That's not true, well, at least for some Extreme Perlers. They put great efforts to get the best out of both extremists :-) Perl and eXtreme Programming. They call the efforts collaboration as "marriage". An excerpt from the website:

        This book is about a marriage of two compatible yet unlikely partners. Extreme Programming (XP) is a software development methodology that enables users, business people, programmers, and computers to communicate effectively. Perl is a dynamic programming language that lets an XP team embrace the inevitable change caused by effective communication. Perl is the fixer and doer of the pair, and XP is the organizer and facilitator. Together they help you build robust software applications efficiently.

        Open source softwares? Share and enjoy. Make profit from them if you can. Yet, share and enjoy!

        I didn't realize that extreme programming and Perl were mutually exclusive.

        Did I say so? I was merely hinting at PerlMonks not being wikipedia or an eplain-me-the-world site - and saying that I find asking arbitrary questions (of the kind the OP and my reply are) not appropriate for PerlMonks - even if they carry the terms "scope" and "programming", or even "extreme programming". I did that in a somewhat terse way, but no flame was intended.

        Of course extreme programming "is an interesting and useful subject to be discussed at a site meant to be useful to Perl programmers" - but the OP didn't do that, there's no discussion whatsoever, they've merely asked to explain them a term in the context of - extreme programming, not perl!

        Now that particular question would really have better been asked in comp.programming.extreme.

        --shmem

        _($_=" "x(1<<5)."?\n".q·/)Oo.  G°\        /
                                      /\_¯/(q    /
        ----------------------------  \__(m.====·.(_("always off the crowd"))."·
        ");sub _{s./.($e="'Itrs `mnsgdq Gdbj O`qkdq")=~y/"-y/#-z/;$e.e && print}
        I didn't realize that extreme programming and Perl were mutually exclusive.

        tye, I didn't realize that porn and Perl were mutually exclusive. Should I be earnest to the maximum point? Well, it played a role in getting me involved with Perl. So a priori it's not even OT. However, should I ask: 'what does the term "dp" mean in the context of "porn"?' wouldn't you reply to the effect of "and your perl question is?" It may become an interesting Perl question if it were about how to use perl to retrieve interesting dp material out of the web - although I would expect flames getting out of it instead...

        I'd like to read about extreme programming. I think it is an interesting and useful subject to be discussed at a site meant to be useful to Perl programmers.

        Granted. If there's some actual Perl content. Even if a concept is explained abstractly... provided that there's at least a hint of a Perl example. But the OP both in title and content is nothing like this.

        If you'd like to only get Perl syntax questions and flames telling people that their question would be more appropriate in comp.programming.extreme, then perhaps you'd be happier using Usenet instead of PerlMonks. To my delight, PerlMonks is not Usenet.

        Oh, c'mon! You're a fantastic hacker whom I greatly respect, so I'm not dismissing you with a cheap argument. Having a background in Usenet, which I like, I'm probably biased towards it: yet I understand your concerns and especially the ones towards very strict policies about sticking to the topic. But think of it: there's a threshold, and the root node of this thread is well below any reasonable threshold for quite about anybody's standard.

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