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Re: You've just spilled something on your tie at lunch... Do you:

by TStanley (Canon)
on Sep 22, 2007 at 02:21 UTC ( #640473=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to You've just spilled something on your tie at lunch... Do you:

At my company, all males are required to wear a tie, as it presents a more professional image, which does make a lot of sense when you think about it.
On the other hand, I have a small collection of some off the wall ties that I regularly wear, plus several Christmas season ties as well.


TStanley
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People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -- George Orwell


Comment on Re: You've just spilled something on your tie at lunch... Do you:
Re^2: You've just spilled something on your tie at lunch... Do you:
by YuckFoo (Abbot) on Sep 22, 2007 at 18:34 UTC
    At my company, all males are required to wear a tie, as it presents a more professional image, which does make a lot of sense when you think about it.

    It makes less sense the more I think about it. Seems like a silly fluff, puff, and stuff show best left to car salesmen and politicians (not that there's anything wrong with that).

    YuckTie
Re^2: You've just spilled something on your tie at lunch... Do you:
by bart (Canon) on Sep 23, 2007 at 07:36 UTC
    One of the most ridiculous garments ever devised, and it presents a more professional image? That makes sense... not.

    Me, I've never owned a tie in my life.

Re^2: You've just spilled something on your tie at lunch... Do you:
by DrHyde (Prior) on Sep 24, 2007 at 10:09 UTC
    it presents a more professional image

    I prefer to present a professional image by delivering what I promise, when I promise. If I can't do that, no amount of playing at dressing up will magically fix things.

Re^2: You've just spilled something on your tie at lunch... Do you:
by TStanley (Canon) on Sep 24, 2007 at 16:37 UTC
    I believe that the point our company president was trying to get across is that when you look like a professional, you will act more professional. This policy has been in place since the company was started back in the 1950s.

    TStanley
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    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -- George Orwell

      Right, but a professional what? Different professions dress differently. You don't see many professional soldiers going into combat wearing ties, for example.

      Seems your company president wants you all to think and act like people who naturally wear ties, i.e. businessmen like himself; which is all very well, but it would be nice if he could do so without suggesting that the rest of us do not have every right to be considered professional based on the quality of our work and our dedication to it, rather than on whether we tie bits of brightly-coloured cloth round our necks or not.

        You don't see many professional soldiers going into combat wearing ties, for example.

        This is probably one of the most ironic statments I've read in a long time, the tie originates from war, it was a cloth in my language called a 'krawat' that you used in combat to clean the bionet, esier to clean than all your clothes when in the field for weeks. The 'Krawat' became an accesory to parades, and from there THE TIE

        The tie is not a very comfortable accesory, espsially for a programmer. If you program you should not deal with clients to often but then it is true especially in South Africa if I visit my clients with a tie instead of the jeans an t-shirt I prefer to wear it does make an impression

        Even the tie has a time and place ...

      Does he have any proof that wearing a tie makes you a better programmer? For values of "better" that encompass "delivers code on time that does what the customer wants".

      And so what if it's been in place since the 1950s? People did all kinds of crazy things back then which we now realise were kinda stupid.

Re^2: You've just spilled something on your tie at lunch... Do you:
by samizdat (Vicar) on Sep 24, 2007 at 17:37 UTC
    Hmmm... I thought companies like that only hired Java programmers. The ones that used to be COBOL shops.

    Don Wilde
    "There's more than one level to any answer."

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