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Re^3: Are programmers getting too lazy for perl?

by Cop
on Oct 04, 2007 at 07:07 UTC ( #642583=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Are programmers getting too lazy for perl?
in thread Are programmers getting too lazy for perl?

Like it or not, my comments are not based on ignorant or inexperience... I am also a Perl guy, and have higher XP than you and vast majority here do, believe or not. Obviously I won't tell you the other ids that I have used and still using.

Update: I just checked your numbers, with 2400+ posts, you only got 19K+ points... I obviously managed to get more points with less writeups.


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Re^4: Are programmers getting too lazy for perl?
by erroneousBollock (Curate) on Oct 04, 2007 at 07:33 UTC
    Like it or not, my comments are not based on ignorant or inexperience...
    They seem to be based on some irrational compulsion to make others dislike you.

    I am also a Perl guy, and have higher XP than you and vast majority here do, believe or not.
    We don't; moving on...

    Obviously I won't tell you the other ids that I have used and still using.
    I haven't seen anyone else posting with your particular incarnation of broken grammar or with your elitist attitude. (Perhaps others have?)

    Like it or not, my comments are not based on ignorant or inexperience... I am also a Perl guy, and have higher XP than you and vast majority here do, believe or not. Obviously I won't tell you the other ids that I have used and still using.

    Update: I just checked your numbers, with 2400+ posts, you only got 19K+ points... I obviously managed to get more points with less writeups.

    Do you want a medal?

    IIUC XP points are calculated based on how often you log in, how much you vote, and how your posts are voted on; there's no direct correspondence with post popularity.

    -David

      I got my medal already - the XP points I got with other ids.

Re^4: Are programmers getting too lazy for perl?
by Mutant (Priest) on Oct 04, 2007 at 10:33 UTC

    I'd really like to see an *actual* response to graff's post, and more detail on what you think is wrong with Perl. We know you think Perl 6 development is progressing too slowly, and Perl is no longer relevant, but can you be more specific?

    This is just a suggestion, and may help you be more constructive in your criticism. If you're constructive, you might find people respond to you a lot better. If you're right, they may even take your suggestions to heart, and incorporate them in their work.

    As an example, maybe you can answer these questions:

    1. What language features in Perl 6 will be obsolete when it gets released?
    2. What language features is Perl 5 currently missing that make it inferior to comparable languages such as Ruby and Python (this should probably take into account Perl 5.10, since it's out soon)?
    3. What is your argument for including large amounts of functionality in the core of a langauge (as, say PHP does), compared to farming it out to module authors as Perl does? Is one approach clearly superiour to the other? Why / why not?

    If you can go into detail on these sort of points, and explain your reasoning, then I'm sure we can have a logical debate that will hopefully be beneficial to everyone. Right now, you're very close to trolling (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a troll, and actually have something to contribute).

    By the way, it would probably also help if you didn't try to win arguments by telling us how experienced you are. Unless you've designed and/or implemented a high level language that's widely used, I can guarantee you that you're not the most experienced or smartest person on this site. Not even close. (Not saying I'm anywhere near close, or even more experienced / smarter than you, but it's good to know your place in the world).

    Update: It was graff's, not grinder's, post I was referring to.

      "Unless you've designed and/or implemented a high level language that's widely used, I can guarantee you that you're not the most experienced or smartest person on this site. Not even close. (Not saying I'm anywhere near close, or even more experienced / smarter than you, but it's good to know your place in the world)."

      Assume I agree with your statement, where are you going to get the facts to support your statement, meaning how do you know I didn't. What if I am on the Perl 6 team (quite possible), what if I am one who contributes to Python. What if I am a SUn employee working on Java?

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