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Re^3: RubyForge vs CPAN: Is Perl's Killer Feature Being Usurped?

by duff (Vicar)
on Oct 06, 2007 at 20:27 UTC ( #643160=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: RubyForge vs CPAN: Is Perl's Killer Feature Being Usurped?
in thread RubyForge vs CPAN: Is Perl's Killer Feature Being Usurped?

A core philosophy of Perl is that there isn't always just one way to solve a problem. A solution must match the problem and the person solving it. Some problems lend themselves well to a functional approach and if you're MJD, you might well choose a functional solution. But if you've only ever programmed in BASIC, you may well choose a different solution. And that's okay because nobody is expected to know everything.

When viewed in that light, your two examples become "meaningless". There are tons of modules dealing with object oriented stuff on CPAN because different people have different affinities for different object models. Perl doesn't need these modules, but they are there for those who would find them useful. Same for your SQL example. If someone who knows SQL wouldn't appreciate those modules, then consider that they may be for people who don't know SQL as well as an SQL-guru.

Or, put another way, if someone were to write many modules for Ruby that mimic all of the Perl modules you disdain and put them on rubyforge, would that somehow detract from the value of Ruby as a language?

Let go of your ego a little bit.


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Re^4: RubyForge vs CPAN: Is Perl's Killer Feature Being Usurped?
by Cop on Oct 06, 2007 at 21:26 UTC

    Your last sentence is a bit sudden, and there is no supporting evidence, but I am letting it go.

    For a SQl guru to use those packages, he loses his ability to show off his performance tuning skill. Is that about ego? yes and no. Don't speak for gurus, if you are not one.

    For Ruby or Python, OO is built-in (as a non-hack), why should anyone create his own OO... unless he is not sane.

    However with things like Python superclass, you may build your own flavor... although not recommended for everyday programmers.

      Your last sentence is a bit sudden, and there is no supporting evidence, but I am letting it go.

      Every post I have read from you lately (including the one I was replying to) has had the tone of "This is the correct answer and these other answers are worthless". That's ego of the worst kind.

      For a SQl guru to use those packages, he loses his ability to show off his performance tuning skill.

      You miss the point entirely. Not every one is an SQL guru. A guru may not use those modules and that's okay. Some non-gurus have similar thought processes as gurus and they may not use those modules and that's okay too. Some non-gurus may not have any thought process resembling what you may call "logic" but (and here's the important part) they understand and will use at least one of those modules and that's okay too.

      For Ruby or Python, OO is built-in (as a non-hack), why should anyone create his own OO

      There you go again ... assuming that there is only one way to think about things.

        If I missed your point "entirely", then look into your own communication skill, and see whether there is anything you can improve.

        I encourage people to become gurus, not to use the wrong things that will keep them down. Those SQL packages are not good for newbies. They are handy and since they are handy they prevent people from improving. Those are like drugs, you build dependency.

        I am the one assuming that there is only one way to think? You obviously got the facts wrong, but that's your issue.

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