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Re^2: Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK

by Cop
on Oct 12, 2007 at 23:22 UTC ( #644561=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK
in thread Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK

The other major challenge is "why Perl 6?"

People use Perl because it was available much earlier than the more correct stuffs like Python and Ruby. So it is bad, but what can you do? you have no choice.

Now Perl 6 might be right, but it is no better than Python etc., plus it is not the first coming... so why Perl 6?

This will be the exact reason why Perl 6 has failed before it is born.


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Re^3: Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK
by eric256 (Parson) on Oct 12, 2007 at 23:46 UTC

    I think perl 6 will be great for people who love perl and want to see its flaws addressed. I wonder if there where people making the same complaints about previous perls? Or C++ versus C? Visual Basic vs. QBasic?


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    Eric Hodges

      I agree that there are hardcore Perl people, but most of people and company out there are not waiting for Perl 6, as a matter of fact, they are moving away from Perl (I don't want to argue how many major web site are running on Perl, I don't care, that's legacy). Perl 6 won't do anything more for them than other languages do.

      You won't get enough people and attention to get Perl 6 as popular as Perl did before.

        Not only do you keep posting utter rubbish, but your English is crap too.

        If you're so hell-bent on getting the worst reputation in the monastery then why don't you save yourself and us time by going to thepen and clicking on the button a lot - problem solved.

        Then you could just leave and go to a Python website and post lots of useful constructive stuff there instead of hanging around here being negative - or don't you actually have anything constructive to contribute?

Re^3: Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK
by chromatic (Archbishop) on Oct 13, 2007 at 00:59 UTC
    Now Perl 6 might be right, but it is no better than Python etc.

    Feel free to learn something about either language before comparing them.

      I don't need to compare them in detail, not to say that as a matter of fact I know both languages. To be caught in detail is exactly what we should avoid here.

      You totally missed the point. Not a surprise, as you never appeared as someone calm and have broad IT knowledge. Perl 6 might have several things better than Python, and Python might have several other things better than Perl 6... There is nothing make Perl 6 stand out. That's what "no better" meant.

      I don't care what you think, but I won't allow you to preach what is wrong.

        To be caught in detail is exactly what we should avoid here.

        Good news! I've never mistaken your posts for sources of well-established, well-documented, clearly thought, or detailed information.

        Regardless, an honest rhetorician who made a statement such as "Perl 6 will be a failure because it offers no advantages over Python" would offer some sort of evidence for the polemic.

        Are you honest?

        ... as a matter of fact I know both languages.

        I published my first running Perl 6 code over two years ago. Please feel free to enlighten everyone by publishing non-trivial Perl 6 code you've written. I prefer Perl 6 code which, like mine, makes use of features in Perl 6 which are not present in Python. I leave it up to you to choose which version of Python, 2.x or 3000.

        Not a surprise, as you never appeared as someone calm and have broad IT knowledge.

        My corpus of work can speak for itself. You're using some of it right now, actually.

      In a different thread, you told me that Python 3000 is nothing, and the only change was added () to print statement. Plus what Jenda asked downstairs the definition of "more correct".

      Put your notes together, you have answered yourselves: Python is more correct, and have less to fix, that's why Python 3000 is close to Python; Perl on the other hand, is so outdated, and needs a big shift to make it correct and modern.

Re^3: Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK
by Jenda (Abbot) on Oct 13, 2007 at 09:03 UTC

      Then why don't you ask yourself the following question:

      If Perl is more correct, why is Larry making Perl 6, and making it OO just like Python and Ruby?

      Larry is probably the most hardcore Perl guy, much more hardcore than anyone here, but yet...

        He's not making it like Python and Ruby, instead he's going far beyond them.
        Huh. And here was I, thinking Larry called himself mostly a C guy.

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