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Re^3: Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK

by chromatic (Archbishop)
on Oct 13, 2007 at 00:59 UTC ( #644573=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK
in thread Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK

Now Perl 6 might be right, but it is no better than Python etc.

Feel free to learn something about either language before comparing them.


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Re^4: Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK
by Cop on Oct 13, 2007 at 01:18 UTC

    I don't need to compare them in detail, not to say that as a matter of fact I know both languages. To be caught in detail is exactly what we should avoid here.

    You totally missed the point. Not a surprise, as you never appeared as someone calm and have broad IT knowledge. Perl 6 might have several things better than Python, and Python might have several other things better than Perl 6... There is nothing make Perl 6 stand out. That's what "no better" meant.

    I don't care what you think, but I won't allow you to preach what is wrong.

      To be caught in detail is exactly what we should avoid here.

      Good news! I've never mistaken your posts for sources of well-established, well-documented, clearly thought, or detailed information.

      Regardless, an honest rhetorician who made a statement such as "Perl 6 will be a failure because it offers no advantages over Python" would offer some sort of evidence for the polemic.

      Are you honest?

      ... as a matter of fact I know both languages.

      I published my first running Perl 6 code over two years ago. Please feel free to enlighten everyone by publishing non-trivial Perl 6 code you've written. I prefer Perl 6 code which, like mine, makes use of features in Perl 6 which are not present in Python. I leave it up to you to choose which version of Python, 2.x or 3000.

      Not a surprise, as you never appeared as someone calm and have broad IT knowledge.

      My corpus of work can speak for itself. You're using some of it right now, actually.

        "...makes use of features in Perl 6 which are not present in Python..."

        Why does that matter?

        First of all, people use languages to solve problems, not to compare their features. Give me one real life problem, that Perl 6 can solve and Python cannot. I mean a real life problem, not language features.

        Secondly, every time you point out one feature that's special to Perl 6, someone else will point out something else that's special in Python... That will never make your argument logically sound.

        Don't pay too much attention to your resume. There are lots of people out there have a similar resume or better ones. Lots companies will value a young guy over you, simply because he gets one year experience of .NET, which you don't have. That's life.

        You left it to me to choose between Python 2.X and 3000? At least give me some suggestion more usable than that. The first Alpha release is virtually unusable.

        By the way, say 2.5 next time, which shows me that you closely follow Python.

Re^4: Perl is an ad-hoc irregular jumble of functionality... and that is A-OK
by Cop on Oct 13, 2007 at 15:54 UTC

    In a different thread, you told me that Python 3000 is nothing, and the only change was added () to print statement. Plus what Jenda asked downstairs the definition of "more correct".

    Put your notes together, you have answered yourselves: Python is more correct, and have less to fix, that's why Python 3000 is close to Python; Perl on the other hand, is so outdated, and needs a big shift to make it correct and modern.

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