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Re^2: What can bring the excitement back to Perl?

by zby (Vicar)
on Mar 25, 2008 at 16:26 UTC ( #676157=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


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I would not say I disagree that much with you. That was a very systematic analysis about all the technical details. What I would like to add to this is a meditation on why people blog and talk so much about Rails. And my intuition is that this is because the integration of nice CSS and HTML templates with code libraries makes Rails a real breakthrough for individual programmers who can create nice looking sites without hiring web designers. This is not just number of lines of code or nice OO - it is something that without RoR is nearly not possible for a lonely programmer. And this is the kind of advantage that makes people blog about it.
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Re^3: What can bring the excitement back to Perl?
by stvn (Monsignor) on Mar 25, 2008 at 17:15 UTC
    And my intuition is that this is because the integration of nice CSS and HTML templates with code libraries makes Rails a real breakthrough for individual programmers who can create nice looking sites without hiring web designers.

    I may very well be ignorant, but I didn't realize that Rails came with a web-design-in-a-box like that. Last I looked, the skeleton code is pretty decent, but far from "designed". In the end though, if you want to create a professional product, you will have to hire a web designer, and that is something that the Rubyists do seem to get more than any other language community.

    I think that while this is a good point, some of the new CSS "frameworks" like Blueprint, YUI Grid and more might make it a moot point. Also I have seen a trend in JS frameworks (in particular with JQuery which we use at work) to make it "look nice by default".

    -stvn

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[Corion]: choroba: I'm still using spod5 as my pod-to-ooxml- converter didn't really get off the ground so far
[choroba]: Slidy is basically HTML, so I'm not sure I really fly high :)
choroba should make his presentation scaffolding public
[Corion]: choroba: spod5 converts pod to S5 HTML, so it's also still basic. I find the lack of animations (in the sense of "highlight this", "highlight that" in code) somewhat tedious as I do it with rendered PNGs
[Corion]: I haven't found a good way to include/use the source SVGs I use for creating the PNGs directly as animations
[ambrus]: Presentations come in many different shapes, and so slides do as well.
[Corion]: Doing that in Powerpoint or Ooxml would be nice(r) but I'm much quicker doing the outline of a presentation and the code as Pod

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