in reply to
Re^6: Why Change?
in thread Why Change?
Wow, that's big of you to give me the benefit of the doubt.
You've made some effort here to dodge my points, the OP, and the thread in its entirety
to attempt to flame me with wikipedia links and philosophy toys. If there is an emotional
reaction in sight, it is your post, sir. It does confuse me in the sense that this site has
gone to some lengths to extol and promote your perl legacy and perl 5, but any discourse or
concern that arises is met with responses like this, or the *accurate* quotes I pasted. Are
you upset I posted them or that you even said them at all? I don't claim any tautologies that
the only benefit to calling it perl 6 was what you posted (I worked with what you gave me), but you have read them as
such. I would like to hear your other reasons about why we now have two active languages both
called perl, especially since one will not be replacing the other.
Now to give you insight to my post in this thread. I saw an appropriately titled thread and
conversation about perl 6, shared my comments, and departed. My view is that of a programmer
who is in the trenches, wading through decades worth of bad ideas from the Information Age
to get work done. Intellectual superiority over some OO feature in another language does not
amuse me. Matter of fact, you may notice that most of the posts in SOPW are coders just like
me where bosses expect things done quickly if not yesterday. I'm possibly mistaken, but I was
under the impression you used to be in these shoes, and this puzzles me even further on why
you cannot understand the counterpoints in this thread, nor tolerate them.
Let's detour to actually being on topic. You mention that there were binary inconsistencies
between perls, even if the syntax was largely supported. Now we have a complete rewrite with
a new syntax that seems to be inspired from a variety of other languages. This only supports
my assertion that perl 6 is so dissimilar as to be a new language entirely that abandons
many years of code and contributions. Advising the OP to use the right tool for the right job
makes sense here since it is not an upgrade. That's not to disrespect perl 6; it's basic
Next talking point is more along the lines of, hey this is the internet and a perl forum where
people go to discuss perl topics good and bad. Every language has pros and cons. Nobody is out
to get perl ("Which perl?" says the Future) in any malicious way. You should be able to handle criticism, even
when it is brutally honest. I have a great amount of respect and gratitude towards the work
you and the p5p crew have done with perl 5. It is the only language that doesn't force me
to think like the language. Thanks.
It would be nice if you spent some time considering threads like this and the questions that
get raised repeatedly, and perhaps posting a FAQ or Statement. Things like the intended
audience for perl 6, distribution intentions, the fate of ++, the general reaction to the syntax, and any
of a number of everyday discussions we have at this site. This would have been a lot better
instead of spending your only post on a valid community thread flaming me.