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Polls on PM issues

by igelkott (Curate)
on Jul 14, 2008 at 12:56 UTC ( #697471=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

In the recent thread on the display of XP levels, I humbly proposed that the matter be discussed in a Poll (ie, to the central Voting Booth). Since that suggestion was made deep in a long thread, I'm going out on a limb here to raise the more general question:
Should general PM matters like this be turned into Polls?

I'm not suggesting democracy but just using the Polls as an RFC, when such is warranted. It might raise the perceived level participation (which is already very good) ... as long as the gods avoid asking questions they don't want opposed.

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Re: Polls on PM issues
by ww (Bishop) on Jul 14, 2008 at 13:14 UTC
    Not sure this is a good idea, as the existing intent of I keep the secret files... is generally humorous. /methinks mixing in polls of serious intent would make it difficult to judge which responses were intended to be serious comments on any given issue.
Re: Polls on PM issues
by sasdrtx (Friar) on Jul 14, 2008 at 14:40 UTC
    I think Perl Monks Discussion would be the most appropriate place for these matters. Notwithstanding ww's opinion on polls above, I think the problem with them is their lack of accuracy and reliability, as far as using them to decide issues. However, I don't see why they couldn't be used to get a sense of the community opinion, either. How "seriously" one takes the question is part of one's opinion.

    Also, it seems like higher rank (more XP) should entail more weight (more votes?) in deciding PM issues.


    sas

      I agree with your first bit, but I don't agree that experience on Perlmonks should give greater weight to votes.

      As of writing this node, I have a little over four thousand experience. However I have also not been able to spend much time on Perlmonks recently, and frankly many of the concerns voiced about Perlmonks itself don't interest me. I'm pretty satisfied with how things are.

      The point is that even though I have thousands of XP, it's likely that there are lots of other monks with less experience who pay more attention to the issues, and spend more time on the site. Their vote should count just as much as mine.

Re: Polls on PM issues (meh)
by tye (Cardinal) on Jul 14, 2008 at 15:51 UTC

    For the most part, I wouldn't find poll results very useful in deliberations on site policy. I'm usually more interested in why you hate/love some idea than how many people "agree" with you. Poll results almost always have as much to do with rather minor quirks of how the poll choices were worded. In a real discussion, quirks in the initial wording can be addressed.

    I initially thought PM polls wouldn't even support a useful question type (a yes/no poll would be pretty useless, IME), then I realized that a "hate it, dislike it, meh, eh, like it, love it" PM poll could be useful in some simple situations (though I still doubt such would be worth the time and effort in most cases especially since there is usually much more to consider at the same time). Having recently gone through a rather large number of "strongly agree ... strongly disagree" poll questions, I think I might prefer if responders could fill in a range when answering such questions (my response falls between "meh" and "like it").

    Trying to turn PM policy matters into polls would require a whole series of polls as the issue evolves and most of the polls would end up being rather useless as by the time some aspect is boiled down to a simple issue that is well enough understood for a reasonable poll to be produced about it, there is a good chance that the point of interest has moved at least a little bit (which likely makes the poll answers that much harder to interpret).

    - tye        

Re: Polls on PM issues
by ysth (Canon) on Jul 14, 2008 at 17:28 UTC
      • Cowboy Neal

      Love it ;-)

      Taking this joke as serious would make it a good example of what not to make into a Poll, IMHO. This proposal doesn't seem so popular among the administration so a popular vote could only be disruptive.

      Good poll topics should either be unimportant (like the fun jokes we have now) or where the matter could go either way (but still not anything critical). Just think it might be nice to know what everyone feels on minor matters which effect everyone.

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