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Re^2: In search of an efficient query abstractor

by xaprb (Scribe)
on Dec 07, 2008 at 20:53 UTC ( #728788=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


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Thanks. Can you elaborate a little more on how you would approach it?


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Re^3: In search of an efficient query abstractor
by mpeg4codec (Pilgrim) on Dec 07, 2008 at 21:14 UTC

    The main issue you're running into is that SQL is a context-free language. That is, it belongs to a class of languages whose expressive power is greater than regular languages and thus cannot be parsed using regular expressions. (The "regular" in regular expressions refers to regular languages.) You'll need to use a recursive descent parser to properly handle SQL statements.

    The best place to begin is to find a grammar for the specific dialect of SQL you're using. You mention that you're parsing MySQL logs, so you may be in luck. The MySQL docs include a grammar for each SQL command it understands. For instance, on the doc page for select, the gray box in fixed width font is the grammar.

    I do not know the specifics of RecDescent (never used it), but I think you should be able to give it the grammar and a SQL statement and it will give you a parse tree. That greatly simplifies your job, because now you only have to recognize patterns in the tree. In fact, productions of the grammar using specific rules are probably the exact "prototypes" you're looking for.

    A note on efficiency: recursive descent parser isn't terrible efficient at O(n3) in the size of the input. If speed's the name of the game and you have a lot of time to spend on this, you can try building an LL(1) grammar for SQL which can be parsed in O(n) using a custom parser. Not recommended for the faint of heart.

    Further note: I'm not the anonymous monk in the gp, just a CS student with a passion for theory.

      Understood. I'm an ex-CS student whose theory is now a distant memory :) But I don't think I need to actually parse SQL to accomplish this. Abstracting away strings and numbers is a much easier problem than parsing a language, and I'm pretty sure it's going to be faster (perhaps not in Perl, though).

      Alas, the MySQL grammar is not actually the same thing as the gray box on the manual pages. The real grammar is in sql_yacc.yy which is something from a horror film.

        yacc requires the grammar to be LALR, which I agree belongs in the ninth circle of hell. The grammar on the MySQL pages is an unspecified sort of context free grammar and I believe RecDescent supports that.

        This is pretty similar to the HTML parsing debate (which never seems to end). You want to get some data out of an HTML page? Go with regex. Want to do anything related to the structure of the HTML and actually parse it? Definitely go with one of the parser modules.

        Analogously, since you're trying to poke around the structure of SQL statements, my recommendation still stands. OTOH, I can understand resistance with regard to picking up RecDescent for a relatively straightforward task such as this one.

        Best of luck!

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