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Re^4: Upgrading CPAN - Yes We Can

by xdg (Monsignor)
on Jun 04, 2009 at 01:12 UTC ( #768228=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^3: Upgrading CPAN - Yes We Can
in thread Upgrading CPAN - Yes We Can

And I'm fine with someone saying, I am going to write an alternative. But there's little I am going to... in the post I was replying to, and there's no and this is what I've already done at all.

Those are great points and shouldn't be missed in what is already tending towards a flamewar.

Even short of having existing code, there's nothing wrong with saying "here is what I plan to do and I want feedback on the idea before I go do it".

Frankly, there's nothing wrong either with someone speculating on how things could be better, or trying to galvanize "the community" to do better. (C.f. Alias' rant about crappy design of perl web sites.)

But between the two sentiments, I'm much more interested in the first than the second. Better ideas are rarely the constraint for improving the Perl ecosystem, but rather it's the time of volunteers to write working, professional, polished code.

So while "show me the code" can come across just as dismissive as "patches welcome", the underlying message is that doing the work ultimately does more to advance the Perl ecosystem than a wishlist does.


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[marto]: the ticketing system does not accept calls via email, nor has it a working API. It's tied into Active Directory for authentication and the Solaris boxes aren't on that domain
[Corion]: The one thing I haven't figured out a solution to is how to get an edge-trigger instead of sending an email every 5 minutes if the usage is above 90%. I want one mail when it goes over 90% but no more emails as long as it stays between 90% and 95%.
[Corion]: marto: Clever! ;)
[Corion]: You can only reach me by pager
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[marto]: that's essentially it :)
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[Corion]: marto: But having open tickets / incidents increases the pressure on them ;) Of course, likely your contract / SLA specifies an upper limit for the number of incidents :-D
[Corion]: marto: Ow ...

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