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Re^10: Status of Recent User Information Leak

by Zen (Deacon)
on Aug 04, 2009 at 18:43 UTC ( #785863=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^9: Status of Recent User Information Leak
in thread Status of Recent User Information Leak

By emailing the list you have; the very same list the hackers have. Because some of the emails are no longer valid doesn't mean we throw our hands up.

It troubles me that this is such a difficult problem. I continue to be asked, "How do I email a large list? What do we say? Why bother using hashed passwords- plaintext is fine!" I've addressed all of these. Am I really the only one that thinks this is a bungled attempt at protecting monks? It feels like I am the only one who really cares and wants to go the extra mile on this instead of just blaming the victim, hand-waving and declaring the idea of notifications NP hard.
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Re^11: Status of Recent User Information Leak
by planetscape (Chancellor) on Aug 04, 2009 at 18:50 UTC
    By emailing the list you have; the very same list the hackers have. Because some of the emails are no longer valid doesn't mean we throw our hands up.

    But... that means that it will be technically impossible to notify all users. Yet you'll continue to rail against what you yourself admit is an impossibility. Why not scream at the sun for failing to rise in the west while you're at it?

    HTH,

    planetscape
      "Why not scream at the sun for failing to rise in the west while you're at it?"

      This coming from someone who pretends to be a dragon. Can we have the next set of apologists please?

        Beats having NAZIs.

        There, I've invoked the Godwin

      It is notifying all users, and by users we mean accounts. If you want to get into semantics, some of them are duplicates. If the emails aren't correct, that's just unfortunate. This is what's called making a good faith effort to notify at the email address they provided.

      The problem with your attitude is you decline to make any such effort, in stark comparison to the attackers. 40,000 community members/developers are not worth the effort unless there's XP involved, right?

        .. If you want to get into semantics ..

        Yes please, I would like some semantical poetry.

        -=( Graq )=-

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