Re: Perlmonks are "old school"?

[Your Mother]

I think the guy isn't as up to date as he thinks/appears. There is a good case for YUI(3) being the most cutting edge JS lib there is and using CGI::App or Catalyst (or Jifty or any real kit) to do web work is distinctly modern as well. Maybe he meant hardcore in that you're doing it all yourself and not using Dreamweaver and Flex/MX or something...?

[SilasTheMonk]

I don't recall him referring to Dreamweaver but I am quite confident that it actually leads to lower quality sites. For a start it costs a lot of money and means you understand less about what is actually going on. That may make it much harder to fix issues. Also for graphical image manipulation I use gimp which even my children are enthusiastic about. As for yui I chose it because it has a reputation for being good on web accessibility. The conversation was too short to pick up on his attitude to yui specifically.

[Bloodnok]

...and by extension, you know what goes on under the hood i.e. maybe he defines new school as not requiring such knowledge since it's all abstracted away by the tools ??

Consider your car running out of petrol/gas...

• New school - change car
• Old school - fill up
Just my pen'orth

[WBF3]

I have noted that often this is the way young recent grads act. In fact they feel they do not need to know what is going on because they have no real penalty for just using what is out there.

We see that the best apps programers were around it the days when there was a penalty for using these tools because there was not 4Gb of memory at 4Ghz processing to just waste.

If you want to really freak one out show him an old C64 or TRS80 program and ask him to replicate it in less than 64Kb.

Most can not do it