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Re: Re: I've had my current job for

by hackmare (Pilgrim)
on May 15, 2001 at 22:04 UTC ( #80653=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: I've had my current job for
in thread I've had my current job for

Someone talking of becoming a permie in a (albeit seemingly) positive way?
I'm impressed.

Doesn't it usually go more like... "i've gone permie...
...but they say they have a great retirement plan..."

Contracting for 3 years and no idea why anyone would stop.

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Re: I've had my current job for
by cacharbe (Curate) on May 15, 2001 at 23:26 UTC
    Positive? Well. I'd say "Im Bitter, but the benefits are good."

    I have a freedom/benefit ratio that is well within my tolerance at the moment, so I'm no _too_ anxious to go looking for the "darkness I know not of" so to speak.

      ...and I'm sure that it's fairly comfortable right now knowing that a company will look bad dropping you, while it will look good dropping the contractors (like me).
      I have to admit it, I'm getting increasingly sensitive to the plight of people getting laid off in North America, hoping this trend doesn not come my way anytime soon.
      Have fun in permie land, and enjoy the shade.

        Hmmm. Just in terms of my situation, I know that we can get another headcount through contrating, but there is NO way we can get another permanent body on staff. I think we actually lost more perm staff than contract staff with our last trimming. It's a tough call.

        Most of the IT staff that work with LAN/WAN were taken off perm. status and 'traded' to a contract company. (They actually had options, but many took the 'Work for someone else, but stay here and do the same job' choice - It lowers over all staffing/HR costs).

        Being the only current application designer on a multimillion dolar investment is one of the only reasons I'm "Indispensible" at the moment. I have no illusions that the sidewalk can end if this project dies or changes hands. My lovely employer has made that clear.

        The industry as a whole is settling now. IMHO, we should see a resurgence of IT need over the next 6 months. Most companies see trimming the headcount as the best cost savings and although I understand why this happens, I disagree that it is the best way. As the industry settles over the rest of the year, I'm thinking ( hoping) that many of the IT managers will realize that the low morale and oversized work load are related issues, and seek to grow their staffs again.

        Of course this is speculation, but Information Technology isn't going to go away, and the more complex it becomes, the more 'staffing' is going to be an issue. You can't run multi-million (billion) dollar systems with a skeleton staff. Things break, and it costs you more in down time than you saved by firing people. That's reality, it just takes someone getting burned once (maybe twice) to see the truth in it. With 24-7 manufacturing and eBusiness, B2E portals and enterprise applications that exist to the suits only as long as they are reliable, staffing fluxes are painful, yes, but, from what I've seen, relatively short.


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[marto]: erix unlikely, we've had posts within the last few minutes ;)
[ambrus]: nysus: make sure you enter at least two lines for the title and then preview, and read warnings the preview form prints
[davies]: There is an option (I have it set) to force preview before submission. Perhaps your option has been set (accidentally?) and you are not expecting it.
[ambrus]: sorry, I mean at least two words for the title and then preview
[ambrus]: davies: that option is the default. and it's not really "force", it just hides the button.
[marto]: yes, not reading the errors displayed has been a cause of this type of report in the past
[nysus]: Ambrus, ah. I think that was the problem. I'll try. Thanks!
[davies]: Ambrus: you've missed it by a couple of weeks, but consider next year's London Perl Workshop.

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