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### Poll: How should the =( )= be called???

by LanX (Bishop)
 on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:31 UTC Need Help??

Hi

There are some problems with the widespread naming for this idiom: =( )=

But what does the community think is the most intuitive name?

I decided to improvise a poor mans poll to find an answer:

My willing servant, The Perlman¹ will show you some of the discussed alternatives, please choose the ones you like by upvoting.

I will update the results at least every day, if you wanna see them in realtime just downvote the other alternatives.

If you wanna suggest other alternatives, be free to do so. If you don't wanna risk being downvoted send me a msg, and the Perlman will add it.

Have fun! 8)

Cheers Rolf

UPDATE: I'm not sure if the rep-system is really reliable...

As of 2010-01-12 20:57 GMT "Rolex" said "Reputation: -1 (+3 -4)"
As of 2010-01-12 23:23 GMT "Rolex" said "Reputation: 0 (no significant downvotes)"

ARGH ... The up and downs are not displayed separately if the sum is not negative... (why?)

UPDATE: Final results "As of 2010-01-31 17:04 GMT"² are:

• -3 (+10 -13) The Goatse operator
• 3 (+11 -8) The Saturn operator
• -7 (+6 -13) The Propeller Operator
• -6 (+7 -13) The Biplane Operator
• -6 (+5 -11) The "Mexican on a motorbike" operator
• -14 (+1 -15) The "spread eagle" operator
• -10 (+2 -12) The "flying lentil" operator
• -2 (+7 -9) =( )= equals headless penquin or stoned camel
• -5 (+4 -9) The "Eyepatch" operator
• 6 (+11 -5) The "Rolex" operator
• -5 (+5 -10) The "NSFW" operator
• -5 (+4 -9) The Owl operator
• -2 (+4 -6) The Uranus operator
• 5         The squeeze operator.
• 1 (+6 -5) The Operator-That-Must-Not-Be-Named
• -1 (+5 -6) the Koala operator
• 1 (+5 -4) The "Half-Bra" operator
• -2 (+3 -5) The "Double Duck" operator
• FOOTNOTES:

1) a minor incarnation of my splitted personality...

2) There hasn't been any activity lately, so I decided stopping updating the stats. Off course you can still continue to vote, I'll gonna check it with bigger intervalls from now on.

Replies are listed 'Best First'.
The squeeze operator.
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Jan 12, 2010 at 16:17 UTC

Cos it squeezes a list into a scalar as demonstrated by this one-liner:

```perl -e"\$|++;print(qq[\r(  )]),select('','','',.1),print(qq[\r=()=]),s
+elect('','','',0.2) while 1"

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Re: Poll: How should the =( )= be called???
by moritz (Cardinal) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:57 UTC
The current approach has the nice advantage of allowing multiple positive selections.
However I think that the number of participants will be greater if it is a "normal" poll
Rata (unsure which way he likes more)
Normal polls are only accessible one after the other and only for a limited timespan.

But unfortunately my idea of only counting upvotes and allowing downvotes to be ignored doesn't work... I can't see upvotes seperately if the sum is positive 8(

Cheers Rolf

I wanted a poll now not in the far future...

Cheers Rolf

/msg pollsters yo baby, i got a sweet urgent poll i need approved, check it out [id://5w337]
The "Rolex" operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:58 UTC
=( )= equals The Impenetrable Karmic Reflector Shields of Xena
by zentara (Archbishop) on Jan 12, 2010 at 16:06 UTC
.... how about the Impenetrable Karmic Reflector Shields? ..... aka Xena Shields :-)

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Old Perl Programmer Haiku
The Saturn operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:35 UTC
The Operator-That-Must-Not-Be-Named
by Ratazong (Monsignor) on Jan 12, 2010 at 16:34 UTC
The "Half-Bra" operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 15, 2010 at 12:58 UTC
Re: =()= Poll: And the winner is ...
by LanX (Bishop) on Jan 31, 2010 at 17:27 UTC

1. 6 (+11 -5) The "Rolex" operator

2. 3 (+11 -8) The Saturn operator
3. -3 (+10 -13) The Goatse operator
4. 5         The squeeze operator.¹

Cheers Rolf

¹) (approximately (+8 -3))¹ ,please note, not all downvotes are really counted, since the monastery limits the number of "significant downvotes" per day. So downvotes for propositions which are further down the list don't show anymore...

UPDATE: no I don't consider this poll representative, but at least it allows multiple votes and dynamic adjustments/propositions, which is sometimes a nice alternative to the local standard polls.

I thought of "wristwatch", but liked "Rolex" for its similarity to "regex". Personally, I don't wear a watch. Nor did I vote.
Hmm wristwatch is somehow long and not handy.

"Rolex" is easier, but what I don't like is advertising for a brand. Same problem with "Seiko" or "Swatch"...

BTW: You can still vote.

Cheers Rolf

LOL 8)

> Can we consider this a preliminary election of candidates, and then do this all over again somehow, but with some sort of decent preferential voting method?

... can we consider that you to tell us how to do achieve this?

Option 1: Realizing it with perlmonk accounts => restriction to available mechanisms.

Option 2: Using external service with login => perlmonks have to register again, people get lost.

Option 3: Using external service without login => multiple votes can manipulate the result.

Option 4: user je44ery implements his wishes within the monastery...

Cheers Rolf

Writstwatch , maybe, but Rolex? That is blatant shilling
the Koala operator
by Discipulus (Monsignor) on Jan 13, 2010 at 12:10 UTC
hello there but if you want a descrptive name it must be only one: Koala operator or the sleeping koala if you --verbose

Lor*
Re: Poll: How should the =( )= be called???
by Discipulus (Monsignor) on Jan 14, 2010 at 10:06 UTC
oh oh ++ for u BrowserUK
but really you can't see me?
```
perl -e"\$|++;for(10,40,238,32,32,238,41,32,32,99,97,110,116,10,32,61,4
+0,41,61,32,32,32,117,32,115,101,101,63,10,32,32,196,170,10){print chr
+ \$_ ;sleep 1}"

UPDATE:
```##or long explaination

my \$eucalypt_branch = 'leaf 'x12;
print 'koala eat ',(\$_=()= \$eucalypt_branch=~/\S+/g),' leaves';

#the koala spend the life to evaluates scalars (eucalypt's branches) i
+n list
#(of leaves to eat)context and again into a scalar (meal) context unti
+l satisfied

> oh oh ++ for u BrowserUK

unfortunately it was a bad idea to tell people to downvote whenever they want. In BUK's case I can't see the upvotes ... and coming late reduces the number of downvotes.

But for a beta this poll worked quite well because it's much more flexible than the usual approach....

Cheers Rolf

... and I assume BrowserUk got some votes for the clever code he wrote to illustrate his naming-idea, not for the name itself ;-)

Rata (who hopes that this "beta" will be a "real poll" in the near future)
Re: Poll: How should the =( )= be called???
by Anonymous Monk on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:55 UTC
make it a real poll
The "Double Duck" operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 15, 2010 at 13:03 UTC
looks like the =( emoticon mirrored ...
Re: Poll: How should the =( )= be called???
by DrHyde (Prior) on Jan 14, 2010 at 10:57 UTC
It shuold be called the Stupid Line-Noise Trick That Shouldn't Be Used In Production Code.

That name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

> It shuold be called the Stupid Line-Noise Trick That Shouldn't Be Used In Production Code.

I'm curious, what exactly is your "Best Practice" alternative for production code?

Cheers Rolf

If I need it in code, I would spell it
```= () =
=( )= equals headless penquin or stoned camel
by zentara (Archbishop) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:51 UTC
... now that I think of it, it looks like a headless penquin with its fins out to the side :-)

... or the big nose and squinty eyes of a camel looking right at you

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The Uranus operator
by afoken (Abbot) on Jan 12, 2010 at 16:12 UTC

*SCNR*

The Goatse operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:33 UTC
The Owl operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 16:10 UTC
More like freaky owl with SQUARE EYES :)
The "Eyepatch" operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:52 UTC
The "NSFW" operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 16:07 UTC
The Biplane Operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:38 UTC
The "Mexican on a motorbike" operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:40 UTC
The Propeller Operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:36 UTC
The "flying lentil" operator
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:49 UTC

Aaaarrrrghhh!!! Get out of my head!!! Arrghhhhh! The horror! *Makes pavement pizza*

=@({o})@=

Just a something something...
by The Perlman (Beadle) on Jan 12, 2010 at 15:47 UTC

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