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Re^9: The current state of Perl6

by Anonymous Monk
on Apr 20, 2010 at 15:35 UTC ( #835800=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^8: The current state of Perl6
in thread The current state of Perl6

I'm with educated_foo on this one, I too think you talk too much and accomplish too little. And 7 years of Perl 6 development is a bit exhaggerated, after all you have exactly 65 commits , but your contributions lie more in your interminable blog posts about how awesome of an optimization you've been able to hack together.


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Re^10: The current state of Perl6
by CountZero (Bishop) on Apr 20, 2010 at 16:00 UTC
    And Anonymous Monk has ZERO commits on any project.

    I think that settles the issue.

    CountZero

    A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a string of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little or too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity." - The Tao of Programming, 4.1 - Geoffrey James

      Ad hominem never do, CountZero
        I didn't start that kind of argument. But there may be some hope for you yet, if you can still see the humour in my name!

        CountZero

        A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a string of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little or too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity." - The Tao of Programming, 4.1 - Geoffrey James

Re^10: The current state of Perl6
by chromatic (Archbishop) on Apr 20, 2010 at 19:32 UTC
    And 7 years of Perl 6 development is a bit exhaggerated, after all you have exactly 65 commits....

    Yes, I have 65 commits to Rakudo. I have some 2200 commits to Parrot as well (in 5.21 years, according to CIA.vc), and ~330 weekly summaries of design meetings.

    Maybe I have accomplished too little. Maybe if I pushed my volunteer efforts more, I could have more than 1.19 commits per day for the past 5.21 years (CIA.vc's stats don't go back to the start of Parrot). Somehow I doubt that would satisfy you, though.

Re^10: The current state of Perl 6
by moritz (Cardinal) on Apr 21, 2010 at 10:14 UTC
    There's (nearly) no such thing as "too much talking".

    Projects needs contributors to be successful, and contributors learn about projects by hearing somebody talk about them, more often than not.

    To stay on the topic of Perl 6, have you heard about the compilers called elf and mildew? Most people haven't heard about them. That's because the developers preferred to code, and didn't talk much about them outside of #perl6.

    Let me tell you what happend to elf: its development stalled, because the main author was frustrated about not receiving any contributions.

    Mildew is still being developed, but even I (who spends typically more than 3 hours a day reading #perl6, the mailing lists and blogs) don't really know what the current state is, what features are implemented, and if it's usable for any practical purpose.

    So we need people who talk. We even need them if they don't contribute a single line of code (and chromatic has made significant code contributions, without which Rakudo wouldn't be anywhere near its current state).

    We need people who talk, blog, write books, speak at conferences, talk to perl monger groups, talk to non-perl developers... we need all publicity we can get.

      A lot of people feel very passionately about Perl 6, but the 'Release date' problems kind of really make it difficult for them justify Perl 6 among common masses. I and you may understand but not all.

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