Beefy Boxes and Bandwidth Generously Provided by pair Networks
Just another Perl shrine
 
PerlMonks  

Re^10: The current state of Perl6

by chromatic (Archbishop)
on Apr 20, 2010 at 19:34 UTC ( #835867=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^9: The current state of Perl6
in thread The current state of Perl6

The problem I have with how you spend your time is that it makes so much noise per unit of useful work....

Good to know. How many commits do I have to make or modules to write or patches to apply or questions to answer before I can write a blog post? A book? A comment on a web site?

Also, can you give me a concrete definition of "useful" work? I'd hate to waste my time on something that doesn't help you out right now, and then slip up and post a link on identi.ca.


Comment on Re^10: The current state of Perl6
Re^11: The current state of Perl6
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 20, 2010 at 21:06 UTC

    no, listen,don't exhaggerate again please.

    please keep code/talk near 2/1, kthx

Re^11: The current state of Perl6
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 20, 2010 at 21:22 UTC
    let's make the following analogy. let's say that code is the real axis, and talky-talk-talk is the imaginary axis. keep it real :)
Re^11: The current state of Perl6
by educated_foo (Vicar) on Apr 21, 2010 at 01:09 UTC
    Anonymous Monk has done a decent job of answering without suffering random morons' down-votes. You can write whatever you want, whenever you want -- who am I to tell you what you can or can't do? But how does your ratio of contributions to blog noise compare to that of Nicholas Clark, H. Merijn Brand, Raphael Garcia-Suarez, etc.? Those people are actual contributors.

    PS -- WTF is identi.ca, and why should I care?

      But how does your ratio of contributions to blog noise compare to that of....

      A classic fallacy! For that to follow logically, you must assert that the abilities, interests, resources, talents, and opportunities of everyone mentioned are fungible. (You also have to assert that whatever I write that's "noise" to you is noise to other people, which is clearly not the case.)

      Those people are actual contributors.

      As am I. Feel free to download bleadperl from git and delete every commit to which I've contributed, for example. Good luck building it and getting it to pass tests. If you manage to get it to install, good luck installing CPAN modules.

      Try that with Rakudo. Try that with Parrot.

      Yet that doesn't matter! I have no need to defend myself against your silly allegation that I'm not an "actual" contributor, whatever that means (you throw phrases around as if they had meanings). Your argument would be petty, small-minded, and malicious even if I'd only contributed half or a quarter or a tenth of what I've contributed.

      You have every right to persist in your campaign of complaining about people who volunteer their time and talents and energies and interests to making software a little bit better for other people to use, feel free -- but honestly, attitudes like yours are responsible for driving off a lot of great contributors. After all, why should I bother trying to make something if some sourpuss is going to follow me around on the Internet and complain that I'm doing exactly and precisely what he thinks I should be doing?

      Perhaps you'd have a better chance of getting what you want if you practiced something a little bit closer to humility and gratitude. Certainly I'd take you a lot more seriously.

        A classic fallacy!
        You win the internets! Or something. Frankly, I'm happy that the (blah blah) is not fungible -- I'm glad that regular Perl 5 contributors can't or don't cash in their contributions for bloghorrhea credits.
        Feel free to download bleadperl from git and delete every commit to which I've contributed, for example. Good luck building it and getting it to pass tests.
        A classic fallacy! "The build breaks if you remove my commits" does not equal "I made a real contribution."
        Perhaps you'd have a better chance of getting what you want if you practiced something a little bit closer to humility and gratitude. Certainly I'd take you a lot more seriously.
        Since I already consider you a joke, I don't see why I should suck up to you. Humility? I'm just another Perl-using schlub, with no books to sell, columns to promote, or reputation to polish. I am less than a worm. Gratitude? The "actual contributors" I listed deserve my thanks; you, not so much.

Log In?
Username:
Password:

What's my password?
Create A New User
Node Status?
node history
Node Type: note [id://835867]
help
Chatterbox?
and the web crawler heard nothing...

How do I use this? | Other CB clients
Other Users?
Others about the Monastery: (13)
As of 2014-12-19 09:30 GMT
Sections?
Information?
Find Nodes?
Leftovers?
    Voting Booth?

    Is guessing a good strategy for surviving in the IT business?





    Results (75 votes), past polls