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Re^3: Packaging Perl Programs (is) Painful

by JavaFan (Canon)
on Sep 05, 2010 at 20:50 UTC ( #858943=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

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in thread Packaging Perl Programs (is) Painful

I hate Windows too but it's definitely in every Perl hacker's interest for Perl on Windows to be working and getting better.
I neither have a love nor a hate for Windows. I just never use it. And I would really like to know why it's in my interest (as I'm a member of the set of Perl hackers, and you're making a statement about each and every member of that set) Perl on Windows is working and getting better.
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Re^4: Packaging Perl Programs (is) Painful
by Your Mother (Chancellor) on Sep 05, 2010 at 21:51 UTC

    Having Perl available as 1) a powerful choice, 2) a well supported choice, 3) a friendly choice on as many platforms as possible is in the interest of everyone who wants Perl continuing to be used; which contributes to Perl continuing to be supported and improved; and the CPAN continuing to fill with an index of prefab solutions that other languages can't touch. As well you know Windows is a huge portion of the computer world.

    I've owned nothing but Macs (and oh, okay! Tandys) for 25 years. If Perl didn't work on Mac, I'd have moved to Ruby and PHP. And I'd be badmouthing Perl for being a language that didn't care. I've boostered for Perl constantly in many ways and places for more than a decade. Losing even one user like me takes away at least a couple hundred other adopters. I'm sure we've lost plenty because Perl turned off similar WIndows users.

    I'm not in the "Perl is Dying" Venn but it's obvious that Perl lost a lot of ground in the last decade and at least some of that is because it was only (easily) accessible to sysadmin *nix types.

    And in the "But What About COBOL" camp, I realize plenty of Perl hackers like you, maybe even me at this point, are going to have high paying Perl jobs if they want them for the next 20 years at least even if Perl "dies."

    The more life-blood we can take in, the more accessible Perl is to anyone with a programming problem, the more interesting, widespread, widely financially rewarding, and vibrant Perl will remain.

      You are absolutely correct.

      Have you seen how seriously easy it is to make a GUI application with Visual Studio and C#? I mean - have you SEEN how easy? Seriously. This is not a "Perl is dying" thing.

      Visual Studio makes building a GUI program for Windows as easy as Perl makes...anything...on Linux. Maybe slightly easier than that even.

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[Corion]: Meh. I need to find myself a better "programming" feed than r/programming (which is just HackerNews reposts and advertisements, very little code). Maybe I should select a list of links that I liked on r/programming and then google for ...
[Corion]: ... an aggregator site that also listed (ideally) all of these links once. And maybe also have an exclude list to blacklist some of the most spammy links that the site may have never mentioned at all
[marto]: I gave up reading HN at all, and feel much better for it :P
[Corion]: Now, how to best automate that Google search ... :-)
[Corion]: marto: Yeah, I'm also short of not reading it at all. I already stopped reading it in the morning because it gave me a foul mood.
[Corion]: The good posts on HN are the non-computing posts. Most of the other stuff is maybe relevant to you if you are 20 and live in Silicon Valley...
[Corion]: Two attributes that don't describe me.
[Corion]: Maybe I should also write a curator for HN or simply not read it anymore, like you do.

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