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Re^5: What is "aggressive" argument?by Argel (Prior)
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Now ask yourself why, of the hundreds of monks I've interacted with here at PM, is it always that same half dozen?Because only a small number of Monks know enough about the internals of Perl and threading to do so? Because others tire of your belligerent attitude so avoid getting involved (or to put it differently the ones that do stay engaged have thicker skin than most)? Or maybe your personalities just don't mesh. Is it their attitude that is the problem or yours? Is it self-fulfilling -- i.e. you and/or them expect a heated debate and respond working under that assumption, which results in said heated debate?
I don't even mind when people on the sidelines pipe up with a "Hey! Tone it down you two.". But when the judgments or defensive interjections are all one-sided, I seek to point that out.And an alternate "one-sided" view is that you were the one, uhm, how can I put this -- heavily emotionally invested in the thread?
I find it interesting that you indicate if someone else comes on strong you will because it usually works. Except in this case it hasn't, so why not take a more diplomatic approach? Or more to the point, if strong vs. strong doesn't work, then are you sticking with a strong approach because you enjoy it more, even if it does tend start a mild flame war?
Anyway, interesting discussion. It's hard to imagine Windows bashing going on left and right here when the two people who respond the most on here (you and ikegami) run Perl on Windows, so I'm sure you had an impact on that. And the commentary on culture and sub-culture was particularly interesting, though you may have to breakdown the Midwest region a bit more (e.g. I think people in the Show Me State can give New Yorkers a run for their money). And based on all of the Anime I watch, your assessment of the Japanese sounds correct. Japan is a very shame-based/saving-face culture, so I can easily see where they would want to avoid overcommitting to a point of view.
I should add that the heated debates are part of the Monastery culture, so while it might be nice to see them toned down a bit, it would be disappointing to see them go away.
Update: As a side note, I always appreciated your support and comments in 635960.
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