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Re^16: What is "aggressive" argument?

by BrowserUk (Pope)
on Nov 10, 2010 at 01:19 UTC ( #870463=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^15: What is "aggressive" argument?
in thread What is "aggressive" argument?

Can't you see that comments like this just reinforce negative impressions people have of you!?!

Had you restricted the quote upto the first comma, I might have thought about that. But you didn't.

IBGS is all of what I said he is. And more that I suppressed 'in the interests of the community'.


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Re^17: What is "aggressive" argument?
by Argel (Prior) on Nov 10, 2010 at 19:20 UTC
    If anything you have it backwards. The first part is fairly tame, maybe even admirable to some. The latter part, whether true or not, is easily seen as inflammatory, etc. Not to mention that if he is as bad as you think he is then all you are doing is boosting his ego -- and to your detriment no less!!

    You say there is nothing you can do about it, but you're like an American football coach who keeps calling the same play over and over again and then wondering why your team lost. The conclusion is obvious -- if you want to do something about the situation then you need to change your approach. As an example, do you really think the rest of us care about your inflammatory sock-puppet diatribe? Try leaving inflammatory comments like that out next time and see where things go.

    Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks

      The latter part, whether true or not, is easily seen as inflammatory, etc.

      And we come full circle. That you are going to bat for a sock puppet id who's sole purpose in existance is to allow its cowardly controller to ply his 'art'--the very things you are judging me for, but 100x worse--safe in the knowledge that his real id is thus protected from any fall out. That speaks volumes.

      The conclusion is obvious -- if you want to do something about the situation then you need to change your approach.

      Firstly, changing my approach won't correct the prejudgement that you apply when you see my name attached to a post. That boat sailed long ago. It might have some small effect on the perceptions of me by newbies; but I don't have run ins with them.

      Secondly, I don't perceive the need for change. You're the one sitting in judgement of me, but you make no attempts to apply your standards to my sparring partners. Not even the non-contributory, wholly vacuous, deeds of an insipid, cowardly sock puppet.

      do you really think the rest of us care about your inflammatory sock-puppet diatribe?

      I wasn't talking to "the rest of you", only you.

      Do I think you care? I don't have to "think", you've made it very clear. And confirmed everything I've been saying all over again.

      A more interesting question is: Do I think you should care about the actions of someone holding (at least) two accounts, and using one of them to get away with spewing foul, if vacuous and insipid, rancour, safe from redress. Yes. I think you should.

      That you seek to protect him from me; that should give you pause for thought.

      I'm not keen on bible quotes, but there is one that comes to mind: judge not others lest you too be judged.

      What I do, I do in my own name, and take full responsibility for whatever consequences arise--good or bad.


      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
        I personally do not like the idea of multiple accounts, save for having an "official" / "admin" type account and then one to post under regularly as a normal user. But I do not make the rules here. :-(

        But more importantly, this thread is about you and things you can do to improve your situation. And that's because while you cannot control the actions others you can control how you respond to them! And that is why your sparring partners are irrelevant to this discussion, save for their ability to egg you on and your unhealthy fixation on them. Which brings us back to changes you can make to your behavior.

        I think I need to clarify:

        [D]o you really think the rest of us care about your inflammatory sock-puppet diatribe?
        What I meant was that the rest of us will likely see you being overly abrasive (and thus startign a minor flame war), see you falling for flamebait, or even worse, see you feeding a troll. That doesn't mean we do not notice who you are sparring with. What it means is that an individual's perception of you will be based on your actions, not your sparring partners. Staying above the fray will likely leave a positive impression. Falling/jumping into, or worse, starting the fray will likely leave a negative impression.

        Or to put it more succinctly -- we don't care about them, why do you? The Do Not Feed the Trolls!!! thread might offer additional enlightenment.

        Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks

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