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Re: What is "aggressive" argument?

by Anonymous Monk
on Nov 23, 2010 at 00:30 UTC ( #873084=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to What is "aggressive" argument?

Your problem isn't new.

If you give me your attention, I will tell you what I am:
I'm a genuine philanthropist all other kinds are sham.
Each little fault of temper and each social defect
In my erring fellow-creatures, I endeavour to correct.
To all their little weaknesses I open people's eyes;
And little plans to snub the self-sufficient I devise;
I love my fellow creatures I do all the good I can
Yet ev'rybody says I'm such a disagreeable man!
And I can't think why!

To compliments inflated I've a withering reply;
And vanity I always do my best to mortify;
A charitable action I can skillfully dissect;
And interested motives I'm delighted to detect;
I know ev'rybody's income and what ev'rybody earns;
And I carefully compare it with the income-tax returns;
But to benefit humanity however much I plan,
Yet ev'rybody says I'm such a disagreeable man!
And I can't think why!

I'm sure I'm no ascetic; I'm as pleasant as can be;
You'll always find me ready with a crushing repartee,
I've an irritating chuckle, I've a celebrated sneer,
I've an entertaining snigger, I've a fascinating leer.
To ev'rybody's prejudice I know a thing or two;
I can tell a woman's age in half a minute and I do.
But although I try to make myself as pleasant as I can,
Yet ev'rybody says I'm such a disagreeable man!
And I can't think why!

We can all see King Gama's problem, but we can't see our own. Burns points that out:

O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!

But don't get the impression from that second quote that I mean to imply anyone is a louse. I'm not.

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Re^2: What is "aggressive" argument?
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Nov 23, 2010 at 01:18 UTC
    Your problem isn't new.

    Hm. (Inevitably:) You're wrong. Or, you might be right, but not in the way you think.

    You see, I know why people find me a disagreeable man. There are flavours of course, but mostly, it's because I am.

    My only "problem" here is why other people think I should change. More importantly, why do they think that I should want to change.

    This place isn't a part of my social life. Just a place where I pass time by attempting to solve interesting problems. As I said somewhere else in this thread, I find programming problems infinitely more interesting and challenging than crosswords or sudoku. Every now and again something I post seems to help the OP and that's nice. And when it doesn't, that okay too, because I probably had fun doing it anyway.

    I wish it were possible to have in-depth, technical discussions here, without people taking disagreement with their ideas, code or logic, as attacks on their person; or them resorting to attacks on my person when their technical arguments are exhausted or disproved. It used to be possible.

    Just as a person does not have to be beautiful, to do something beautiful; they do not have to be stupid, to do or say something stupid. To say: "That is stupid" is not to say: "You are stupid"; but that distinction seems lost here these days.

    I remember when I first came here, I was admonished: "Stop being so damn polite!". Well, this place has knocked it out of me. So, if those with whom I have disagreements, see me as "disagreeable" all I can do is own that.

    Nice poem by the way.

    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
      To say: "That is stupid" is not to say: "You are stupid"; but that distinction seems lost here these days.

      In my experience that distinction has always been lost

        Do you mean here at PM? Or that the distinction doesn't (or isn't seen to) exist?

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