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Re^3: What is "aggressive" argument?

by Anonymous Monk
on Nov 23, 2010 at 02:46 UTC ( #873100=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^2: What is "aggressive" argument?
in thread What is "aggressive" argument?

To say: "That is stupid" is not to say: "You are stupid"; but that distinction seems lost here these days.

In my experience that distinction has always been lost

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Re^4: What is "aggressive" argument?
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Nov 23, 2010 at 03:11 UTC

    Do you mean here at PM? Or that the distinction doesn't (or isn't seen to) exist?

      I mean in real life with humans. The humans will always assume you're caling them stupid. If they're relatives they might forgive you, or if they're really really smart they might compose themselves and reason it out after getting angry, but humans will always get angry first.

        That just doesn't make sense. I'm not saying you are wrong, just that it doesn't make sense.

        Is there any human being that hasn't caught their finger in a car door; or picked up a pan that just came out of the oven with their bare hands; or written 10 lines of code only to realise that it could never work; and thought to themselves: "That was a dumb thing to do!".

        Are they accusing themselves of actually being dumb; or just having done something dumb? Sure, there may be a flash of self-anger, but it (should) soon fade to "we all make mistakes".

        All we humans are fallible. For someone to be infallible would be to be inhuman. To think oneself infallible, the greatest form of self-delusion. This place is littered with my D'oh moments. I like to think I own up to them whether I spot them myself, or need someone else to point them out. But I do draw a distinction between doing something that doesn't work; and doing something that does work, but in a way that others do not find to their liking.

        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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