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Re^13: OSCON Perl Unicode Slides

by BrowserUk (Patriarch)
on Jul 26, 2011 at 14:12 UTC ( [id://916780]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^12: OSCON Perl Unicode Slides
in thread OSCON Perl Unicode Slides

the importance of adhering to certain standards in writing English — irrespective of what those standards are.

Sorry, but that is just bullshit.

It was perfectly possible to write comprehensible English using the ascii character set for the best part of 50 years prior to Unicode appearing. And it still is!

Indeed, tchrist himself has produced substantial amounts of writing in perfectly comprehensible English using only the ascii charset. Now, I assume that neither you nor he will claim that those writings have suddenly become incomprehensible.

So you introduced the distinctions of "comprehensible" and "proper" English in order to justify tchrist's asinine claim that "Code that assumes that ASCII is good enough for writing English properly is stupid, shortsighted, illiterate, broken, evil, and wrong.", by making your point that we are applying different metrics.

So, unless you are saying that the standard of my written English -- along with that tchrist's pre-Unicode output, and all the authors whose works are available in plain text -- is insufficient to be comprehensible, then you were not saying "irrespective of what those standards are". You cannot re-write history to suit your latest fads and fancies.

Comprehensibility is a testable, objective metric. Properness is an un-testable, subjective, divisive metric. One is good, the other bad.


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Re^14: OSCON Perl Unicode Slides
by jdporter (Paladin) on Jul 26, 2011 at 14:56 UTC
    So you introduced the distinctions of "comprehensible" and "proper" English in order to justify tchrist's asinine claim...

    No, I didn't. I introduced that distinction to help explain how these two factions (consisting of you on the one hand a bunch of reasonable people on the other) can continue to shout "You're wrong!" at each other. Both are right because they are using two different metrics.

    And FYI - your repeated attempts to claim insight into other people's mental workings are no longer amusing. It might be fun if you demonstrated some aptitude for it, but you don't.

      your repeated attempts to claim insight into other people's mental workings are no longer amusing.

      I made no such claim. I just referenced your writing from earlier in this thread. It is all there in black and white for everyone to read, so this piece of transparent defensiveness is wasted.

        How can you say wasted, when it so clearly helps you in your eternal pursuit of Re^∞?

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