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Re: to distinguish between [Anonymous Monk]s in a thread, brand 'em

by CountZero (Bishop)
on Sep 08, 2011 at 13:16 UTC ( #924802=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to to distinguish between [Anonymous Monk]s in a thread, brand 'em

Why have people such problems with the "anonymity" of Anonymous Monks?

All it takes to remove the "branding" is to clear your cache of cookies, so this measure is too easily defeated by those who for their own reasons do not want to be associated with a previously posted node.

CountZero

A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a string of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little or too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity." - The Tao of Programming, 4.1 - Geoffrey James


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Re^2: to distinguish between [Anonymous Monk]s in a thread, brand 'em
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 08, 2011 at 13:31 UTC

    Why have people such problems with the "anonymity" of Anonymous Monks?

    I don't have a problem with it :)

    But the anonymity of Anonymous Monks isn't compromised by branding, and the short life is a feature

    The idea is for this 'visual hint' to help distinguish Anonymous Monks in a thread

    Yours in perl,
    Brother Marius of inappropriate Perlism

    My computer smokes when I jam my file in it

    Anonymous Monk zNQ5vDqYgAk
      So you want to de-anonymize them within the thread, which --in my book-- is taking away part of their anonymous robes.

      In a certain way, I am already anonymous by the use of my "handle" CountZero. If I should want to be really anonymous I simply do not log in and become the Anonymous Monk. It is unlikely that I then would want to be almost-but-not-entirely anonymous.

      This whole Anonymous Monk thing is like free speech: any restrictions just kill it.

      CountZero

      A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a string of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little or too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity." - The Tao of Programming, 4.1 - Geoffrey James

        So you want to de-anonymize them within the thread, which --in my book-- is taking away part of their anonymous robes.

        Its like coming in from the rain, your robes are wet, you're the Anonymous with wet robes in a room full of Anonymous

        They'll dry soon enough

        ...almost-but-not-entirely anonymous.

        All your base are belong to Anonymous Monk

        Isn't the idea behind anonymity to hide your identity, not misrepresent your numbers?

        This whole Anonymous Monk thing is like free speech: any restrictions just kill it.

        And yet there exist limits on free speech , and they haven't killed it :)

        CountZero

        A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a string of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little or too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity." - The Tao of Programming, 4.1 - Geoffrey James

        Does jenda's suggestion, at Re^2: to distinguish between [Anonymous Monk]s in a thread, brand 'em, remove the basis for this objection?

        Please, consider carefully, this is NOT -- IMO -- a restriction of any individual's right to annonymity*1; rather, it is an internal, encrypted (non-transparent) means to allow the individual to retain his/her annonymity, while allowing the rest of us to distinguish among AMs -- without in any wise knowing their actual identities

        .

        *1 OK, conceeded: it might be viewed as a limit on a writer's ability to perform a (harmless and highly illustrative) jape such as appears well down, at Re^4: to distinguish between [Anonymous Monk]s in a thread, brand 'em ...Re^3: to distinguish between [Anonymous Monk]s in a thread, brand 'em, but I would (and do) argue that such a limit is insignificant, in as much as an alternate method (immediately below) to create the same illusion/illustation is readily available

        Re^2: to distinguish between Anonymous Monks in a thread, brand 'em [id://123456]
        by Anonymous Monk on Sep 31, 2011 at 09:11 GMT+5
        This is Comment 1. It's actually devoid of substantive content but is being extended (well beyond reason) in order to enhance this illusion -- namely, that this an an actual node.reply
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        Re^3: to distinguish between Anonymous Monks in a thread, brand 'em [id://924823]
        by Anonymous Monk on Sep 31, 2011 at 09:12 GMT+5
        Contradictory Comment 2 or "I don't agree that the above lacks substance. It appears to /me to contain in excess of 180 characters, some of them, perhaps, unique within that node and certainly not insubstatial."reply
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        Re^3: to distinguish between Anonymous Monks in a thread, brand 'em [id://924823]
        by Anonymous Monk on Sep 31, 2011 at 09:12 GMT+5
        Comment 3. The above completely lacks substance and is completely without any reference to Perl. Thus, I think it should be reaped immediately without recourse to consideration or voting.reply
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        Re^3: to distinguish between Anonymous Monks in a thread, brand 'em [Re: 78/80 chars perl line still a meaningful rule
        by Anonymous Monk on Sep 31, 2011 at 09:11 GMT+5
        And besides, ww is all wet! H/She knows that any preference for an absolutist construction of freedom of speech in los Estados Unidos is subject to counter-construction by SCOTUS. For example, consider:
        1. one.
        2. TWO.
        3. Tres.
        4. der vierte!
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      And by signing it (or choosing not to) as you have done, anonymonks can brand themselves for as long as they choose to. Sock puppetry usually gets noticed quite quickly, so I don't see the extra code needed solving any major problem.

      Regards,

      John Davies

        Sock puppetry usually gets noticed quite quickly, so I don't see the extra code needed solving any major problem.

        You can't tell sock-puppetry from from a dog-pile -- the problem was never claimed to be major

        CountZero

        A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a string of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little or too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity." - The Tao of Programming, 4.1 - Geoffrey James

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