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Re: How to help?

by Anonymous Monk
on Nov 05, 2011 at 06:29 UTC ( #936107=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to How to help?

Here are some thoughts on helping the community, you should read them all, you'll get a better idea of the kinds of things you could do

I like to guide the lost towards posting new question in SOPW, instead of replies to ancient threads by long gone monks

I also like to try to get ask-ers to ask effective questions

It entails a lot of copy/paste (links), like form-letters

Short, Self Contained, Correct Example
How do I post a question effectively?
How do I compose an effective node title?
How do I change/delete my post?
The Perl Monks Guide to the Monastery
Where should I post X?
EffectivnessDetective
on necromancy (reviving old threads)
http://WhatHaveYouTried.com/

I also like to quote/adapt solutions from the perl faq, esp when I can do it off the top of my head (the more I practice/adapt solutions from the FAQ, the better I am at writing them)

Bobby Tables: A guide to preventing SQL injection
perlfaq
Tutorials
Modern Perl: the free book
You should read these too
Virtues of Community
Reciprocating to the perl community
What's the secret of this community?
Why does PerlMonks work?
The PerlMonks algorithm
Giving back to the community
The Community is Greater...
Would you rewrite perl community?
And these
Choosing modules - community matters or just technical merits?
Larry Wall Talks Perl, Culture, and Community
How to ask a question in the Perl community, and where to ask it
What's bugging Andy Lester?
And the future
Getting Involved with Perl 6 - 2009
How I came to contribute to Perl 6
Get Involved - Help making Perl 6

Occasionally I will even be a bastard, when I think it will be helpful, but I try to avoid Dealing with Internet Trolls, even using the the Cognitive Therapy Approach

http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/on-being-a-bastard/

So, you can help posters with formatting, effective title, effective question...

You can learn, and teach, the FAQ (you improve)

You can learn, and teach, the Tutorials (you improve)

You can help with perl 6 (improval optional)

You can be a bastard

:D


Comment on Re: How to help?
Re^2: How to help? (On Cognitive Behavioral Therapy)
by luis.roca (Deacon) on Nov 05, 2011 at 18:03 UTC

    Nice reply, great links! I've bookmarked the post. Thank you :)

     “Occasionally I will even be a bastard, when I think it will be helpful, but I try to avoid Dealing with Internet Trolls, even using the the Cognitive Therapy Approach

     http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/on-being-a-bastard/

    However, I'm not certain how informative or overall helpful including notes on dealing with problematic posters is in this context. I also disagree with the approach prescribed since (AFAIK) while cognitive behavioral therapy can succeed when practiced by well trained professionals, I'm not aware of it's effectiveness when practiced by an online community. Even in an ideal scenario where members had training and could agree on methods, this does not address the effects such an effort (ie: time spent away from the site's purpose) has on the rest of the community.

    I appreciate the intent to help an individual who may be suffering from mental/social issues but I think we should leave practicing therapy to the therapists. Discretely directing an individual to resources could help but it assumes the person —wants— to follow through with getting better.

    As for some of the arguments against certain methods pointed out in the link you provided (punishment, ignoring etc.) some teachers may not completely agree:


    "...the adversities born of well-placed thoughts should be considered mercies rather than misfortunes." — Don Quixote

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